United Confederate Veterans Reunion, Huntsville, Alabama. Thursday, February 2, 1928. (Photo courtesy of the Alabama Department of Archives) |
Busting The Myth Of Black Confederate Denial
The Common Sense Defense of Confederate Veterans of Color
By C.W. Roden
Dedicated to the honored memory of
those Confederate Veterans of color
unable to speak for themselves.
This writer is proud to offer his voice in defense
of their memory and their everlasting valor.
those Confederate Veterans of color
unable to speak for themselves.
This writer is proud to offer his voice in defense
of their memory and their everlasting valor.
In my quarter of a century involved in Confederate heritage defense, this writer has had the privilege of meeting various descendants of Confederate veterans from all walks of life. All of them (men, women, and children alike) share with me the honor of being the descendants of the Southern citizen soldier -- both the honored dead who fell during the War Between the States (1861-1865) and those who lived on during the Reconstruction Era and beyond as United Confederate Veterans.
As a Southern-born man and proud Confederate descendant, I'm proud to be counted among those who share that unique pride in our common Confederate ancestry, my Southern brothers and sisters who share that same honorable and unique heritage that make us all children of Dixie. It is that Southern heritage that binds us beyond social class, religious creed, and yes, especially skin color.
To me there is no difference between a Southern-born African-American like Private Henry "Dad" Brown who served as a drummer, or a 19 year old Southerner of Anglo-Celtic descent like Sergeant Richard Kirkland, or a large plantation owner and Confederate general like Wade Hampton III -- or for that matter my own Confederate ancestor, an Alabama farmer who fell in battle at Chickamauga during the course of the War. All of them wore the same uniform, fought under the same Confederate battle flag (or some variation of it), and all of them were defenders of Southern independence. None of them are worth any more, or any less than the other in my eyes; and neither are those proud descendants of any of those same Confederate veterans.
During the course of defending our shared Southern-Confederate historical heritage, it has been my deep personal honor to meet with descendants of many Confederate Veterans of color (a few of them Real Daughters and Real Grandsons) who'd actually known their ancestor personally. As a student of history I've listened to the amazing personal stories of their Confederate ancestors with great interest. I've also found many of these people to be outstanding folks and treated with the highest respect by other proud Confederate descendants.
Like other stories of African-American courage and excellence in American history, these particular Confederate veterans -- these American veterans -- have been overlooked by the wider American public, and the largely whitewashed general American historical record for far too long.
Thankfully, in the decades following the American Civil Rights Movement, efforts to tell the full account of African-American roles in the forging of our overall American national identity have advanced considerably. As a member of Generation X growing up in the 1980s and 1990s, and a student of history, I've also been privileged to learn about much of that history -- the good and the bad -- as it came to light; especially those stories of Confederate Veterans of color, among other amazing personal stories of black excellence in Southern and American history.
It is because of this profound respect for Southern and American history and our shared Confederate heritage that I hold a particular disdain and personal moral disgust for those white supremacists and self-proclaimed "Social Justice Warriors" who mock the service of these veterans through the thinly-veiled form of regressive bigotry known as Black Confederate Denial.
Today, this writer is going to present the facts and common sense logic on the subject of Black Confederates, as well as present the ultimate failure of the Black Confederate Denial narrative.
Anyone expecting what may best be described as "neo-Confederate propaganda" will find themselves disappointed. Too many amateur mistakes and untruths have already been spoken about the service of the Black Confederate veteran -- not much unlike the many myths surrounding the War itself on both side of the argument.
This author will present nothing but the plain facts and any speculation by the writer will likewise be noted. Certainly I will present my very typical pro-Southern opinion, but will refrain from writing any unverified information including guess work (unless noted) and purposeful mistruths about any specific individual, or group. To do so would diminish the honor of not only these Confederates of Color, but of every Confederate Veteran who served in the defense of their Southern homeland.
The only agenda here is to explain the service of these people, and I will leave it to you, the reader, to determine for yourself if the common sense case has been made for these Confederates of Color.
Black Confederate Denial & Its Sinister Implications
Black Confederate Denial can be best defined as an obscene form of historical negationism and that promotes the dehumanization of the Black Confederate Veteran. It is an attempt to negate the established facts of the service of Southern men of color.
Black Confederate denial and distortion are forms of racial bigotry at their core. They are generally motivated by personal hatred of the memory and identities of African-Americans -- both living and dead -- that reject the established narrative that black Americans were only loyal to the Union. These acts largely serve to undermine the understanding of the complexities of American history.
In the last decade, a small but somewhat vocal group of largely "politically correct" agenda-driven historians in the American academic community have challenged the legitimacy of these Southern men of color. Their arguments are largely based on little more than accusations as to the alleged motives of the modern-day Sons of Confederate Veterans and the United Daughters of the Confederacy in honoring them. Both the memory of Black Confederates and their proud descendants have come under attack from this vocal group of dubious academics who strongly advocate the Righteous Cause Mythology.
The methodology of these views also hold uncomfortable similarities with Holocaust Denial in the way these same agenda-based academics present history. Black Confederate Denial is historical gaslighting at its worst, largely built on a house of cards made up of half-truths and defended by illegitimate strawman arguments.
In this case Deniers start their arguments by presenting a couple of true historical facts such as the historically true detail that the Confederate government did not formally enroll black Southerners into the Confederate army until March of 1865, and only reluctantly after serious debate.
While the detail itself is true, it does not accurately present the full story of the Black Confederate loyalist as an individual, or his experience. But instead of dealing with these men as individuals, the group-think mentality largely associated with Left-wing identity politics comes largely into play here. Rather than confront an individual story that contradicts the narrative, the Denier chooses to ignore the story and repeat their original talking points ad nauseam.
Another favorite argument of Black Confederate Deniers is to say that black men who preformed service jobs were not legally soldiers since many Black Confederates present in Confederate units were not formally enrolled as soldiers on the unit's muster rolls themselves. These Deniers also largely reject the service of free men of color in Confederate service ranks, focusing instead of those slaves and declaring their service invalid since slaves had no free will and therefore no choice. This one is called the "slaves not soldiers" argument, in effect saying that these men were "non-people" in much the same way that a Leftists groups today regard non-white social conservatives as "race traitors" and dehumanize them socially through terrible forms of internalized bigotry.
Worse, Black Confederate Deniers insist that their reasons for doing so are about preserving the integrity of the historical record while at the same time using that as a cover to attack the descendants of these Confederate veterans themselves -- the true targets of these mean spirited and hateful people.
Can
you imagine anything more hurtful and demeaning than having some
triggered academic with a chip of their shoulder saying to someone
that their ancestor was "just a ditch digger" and not a soldier? That
they did not deserve the dignity of being remembered as anything more
than a "slave" regardless if the charge is true?
These
reasons alone would be more than enough for this writer to actively speak out against this sort of
backdoor bigotry disguised as academia, though an even more sinister reason also exists.
Black Confederate Denial talking points are also largely quoted by extreme Alt-Right white nationalists, many of them active members of white supremacist organizations who oppose the idea of honoring Confederate Veterans of Color, or promoting what they erroneously term the "Rainbow Confederacy" -- a term that is also popular among Deniers themselves.
In point of fact, there is an uncomfortably close informal alliance between these historical negationists and white racists to undermine the memories of these men, each for their own sordid goals. A sort of alliance between useful idiots one can say.
Ultimately the arguments of Black Confederate Deniers do not hold up well when subjected to even the most unbiased scrutiny. When those arguments are challenged, almost all of these Deniers throw up strawman arguments to counter the holes in their chain of logic. They will demand proof of service. When service records or muster rolls are provided, the Deniers cry foul, declare the evidence invalid for whatever reason and then retreat to the same tired and used up talking points, and then declared victory over their opponents. All the while justifying their obscene and dehumanizing actions as efforts to promote "real" Black History and experience.
The following rant taken from the social media site facebook and written by one of the more vocal proponents of Black Confederate Denial historical negationism (an individual whose name I will not post here) is typical of their arguments and how they denigrate the memory of a Confederate of Color -- while at the same time pretending to honor them service and experience of African-Americans loyal to the Union:
Black Confederate Denial talking points are also largely quoted by extreme Alt-Right white nationalists, many of them active members of white supremacist organizations who oppose the idea of honoring Confederate Veterans of Color, or promoting what they erroneously term the "Rainbow Confederacy" -- a term that is also popular among Deniers themselves.
In point of fact, there is an uncomfortably close informal alliance between these historical negationists and white racists to undermine the memories of these men, each for their own sordid goals. A sort of alliance between useful idiots one can say.
Ultimately the arguments of Black Confederate Deniers do not hold up well when subjected to even the most unbiased scrutiny. When those arguments are challenged, almost all of these Deniers throw up strawman arguments to counter the holes in their chain of logic. They will demand proof of service. When service records or muster rolls are provided, the Deniers cry foul, declare the evidence invalid for whatever reason and then retreat to the same tired and used up talking points, and then declared victory over their opponents. All the while justifying their obscene and dehumanizing actions as efforts to promote "real" Black History and experience.
The following rant taken from the social media site facebook and written by one of the more vocal proponents of Black Confederate Denial historical negationism (an individual whose name I will not post here) is typical of their arguments and how they denigrate the memory of a Confederate of Color -- while at the same time pretending to honor them service and experience of African-Americans loyal to the Union:
In its essence, the whole fixation with "black Confederates"
reflects a desperate attempt to seek cover from the massive onslaught of
facts that establish the decisive role of African Americans in securing the victory of the United States over the slaveholders' rebellion.
200,000 black men, the great majority former slaves, served as soldiers
in the United States Army. A similar number served in every
noncombatant role in that army. Their dependents comprised another half
million or more men, women, and children, most of whom also served by
working either directly for the government (e.g., on lands administered
by the Treasury Department) or in the civilian workforce. That transfer of labor alone would have destroyed the Confederacy, but its reformation into direct military and labor support for the other side, the side of freedom, hurried the rebellion's demise to the benefit of all of us today. And that transfer of labor occurred without the initial support (and sometimes in the face of opposition from) the U. S. government, and despite slaveholders' violence (including forced removals and outright murder), the conditions in ill-prepared "contraband" camps, widespread illness, and general racism.
In all this, African Americans showed all the greatest qualities we like to associate with the American character: initiative, courage, family values, and love of freedom. And yet there remain today innumerable white Americans who cannot process that great truth. Instead they embrace a mythology founded on the enforced services of the enslaved, the entrapped, the racially ambiguous, and trace minority of people of color employed by a government founded on a cruel racist ideology. Nothing else explains why white people spend so much time on this unicorn hunt while knowing little and caring less about the reality of the USCT and contraband experience.
Some of you all really need to step back, take a look at the big picture, and come to grips with why your perspective has little sway with serious historians. And we all could benefit from focusing more on the experiences of the USCT and contrabands who saved our great country in its hour of greatest need.
This writer would like to offer a small point of correction: the official numbers for the United States Colored Troops is listed at approximately 178,600 men and boys in 175 individual units, but then again the individual who wrote that rather long and boring piece made far more than just one factual error.
Now let me show you where this individual, and others like them, get it wrong.
Defining The Black Confederate
The term "Black Confederate" is a largely general term that has come to describe any Southern-born African-American who has been said to have served in some capacity within the Confederacy during the period of the War Between The States.
It must also be admitted by this writer that some well-meaning people who defend the memory of the Confederate soldier have, at times, inadvertently offered validity to Black Confederate Denial through largely ridiculous and inflated claims about Black Confederate Veterans and their service. Mostly through a combination of exaggerating the number of Black Confederates who served and not clearly defining the difference between someone who preforms the duty of a soldier, or as a citizen who acts out of patriotic duty.
Why would a black man serve with and fight for a Confederate government that, if successful in establishing their independence, would almost certainly have resulted in the continued enslavement of many of these men, as well as a large majority of their fellow Southerners of color, including possibly their own families?
Were these men actually slaves without free will forced into Confederate service with rifle barrels put to their heads as Deniers claim? Were they willing Southern patriots, like white Southern men fighting of their own free will to defend their Southern homeland from invasion? Were they both and neither at the same time? How many of them served and do they deserve the designation "soldier" by either 19th or 21st century standards?
The answers to these questions is not always so black and white and shows the complex nature of the relationship between the two main ethnic groups of the American Southland.
The main problem with the broad term is that it implies that every African-American who had any sort of service in the Confederate military was a Black Confederate, or held loyalty to the Confederacy. Stories regarding such black men in Confederate service going over to the Union side when the occasions offered argues strongly that this was not always the case.
The most well known and documented example of this is the defection of Robert Smalls, a African-American slave of mixed ethnicity who served as a pilot for the Confederate transport steamer CSS Planter. Smalls defected to the Union blockade fleet surrounding Charleston harbor along with a crew of other black Southern slaves and their families.
Now add the word "soldier" at the end of Black Confederate and this raises even more eyebrows.
Most cases of the service of black Southerners involved manual labor on fortifications around major cities, transportation of supplies, the making of war materials, and service as nurses and stewards in Southern military hospitals. To imply these individuals as a whole served in a field capacity as Confederate soldiers is likewise a broad stretch, though one easily made by some well meaning folks in the Southern Heritage Defense community. By no means does this diminish the important work done by these people on behalf of the Confederate war effort, but in and of itself does not suggest that all of these people were Southern loyalists.
So what is the proper definition of a Black Confederate?
These are the three best examples of how one can best define a Black Confederate:
(1) Any black male, slave or freeman, who served in the Confederate military in any service capacity (cook, musician, teamster, body servant, or other such service job) who, of his own free will and without coercion, fought in defense of an individual Confederate soldier, a Confederate unit, or acted in defiance against the Union military.
(2) Any black male, slaver or freeman, who served in the Confederate military in any service capacity captured by Union forces, imprisoned in Union prisoner of war camps, and refused despite all efforts by the enemy to take the oath of loyalty, desert, or behave in any way disloyal to the Confederate military, or the Confederacy.
(3) Any black Southern civilian who, of their own free will, volunteered their service, or preformed any action in support of, or in defense of, the Confederacy against the Union invader.
Black Confederate Loyalty
Deniers will loudly insist that no black Southerner was truly loyal to the Confederate cause of independence. They state the obvious reason being that the Confederacy was founded on the cornerstone of racial inequality and the establishment of a "slavocracy" in North America.
The argument over whether African-Americans took up arms to fight for a government that enslaved them is a bitter one. Throw in the usual "social justice" balderdash and this leads to some really intense arguments, to say the least.
As I pointed earlier, Black Confederate Denial begins with pointing out at least some historically relevant truth as a foundation.
The very first card in the Denier's house of cards is the argument that Confederate policy did not allow slaves to be soldiers until March of 1865, and even then only on limited terms. Of all their arguments, this one is the only one that holds a kernel of actual historical truth to it.
In January of 1864, Confederate Major General Patrick R. Cleburne and several other Confederate officers in the Army of the Tennessee proposed the formal enlistment of slaves as Confederate soldiers. The proposal was largely met with disdain by some in the Confederate Congress and by President Jefferson Davis himself. With the war beginning to wind down late in 1864, the Confederate Congress finally took up a very bitter debate on allowing the creation of Confederate regiments of colored troops, as the Union had established with the creation of the United States Colored Troops. On Wednesday, January 11, 1865 General Robert E. Lee himself wrote the Confederate Congress urging them to arm and enlist black slaves in exchange for their freedom. This did not finally happen until Monday, March 13, 1865 -- less than a month before the fall of Richmond, Virginia and the surrender of the Army of Northern Virginia.
None of these facts are in dispute by anyone on either side of the argument, and even the most ardent Confederate heritage defender will concede the points made. Certainly this writer does not dispute these historical facts.
Right now I can hear the whoops and cheers of Deniers as they jump up and down shouting in victory at my concession.
Yeah, not so fast there.
The argument over the formal enlistment of slaves was largely made over the idea of making whole Confederate regiments out of slaves.
Most Black Confederates who served in the ranks of the Confederate army did so as individuals as part of larger units of already established Confederate regiments on the field. How many of these individuals served in each regiment would largely depend on a number of factors, including what their particular service was in terms of their service job. However, we will get into the debate over the actual number later on.
While it is true that legally a slave could not be a soldier in terms of specific Confederate government policy, this did not stop a significant number of black Southern loyalists, many of them free men of color, from volunteering their services to their local Confederate regiments to preform whatever job could legally be required by them.
Here comes the first laughable Denier strawman folks: "But there weren't any free black men in the Confederacy!"
Actually that is far from true according to the US Census data taken in 1860. There were over 250,000 free African-Americans in the States that would make up the Confederacy, and border states that were largely divided in their loyalty between the North and South.
Obviously support for the Confederacy among the free black population was mixed, just as it was for a large part of the Southern States. Secession and independence was not universally accepted in the South, and, for that matter, a war to restore the Union was not completely popular with some parts of the North either. When we say War Between the States, we usually just mean the governments of said States as opposed to some of the populations of those same States.
Loyalty to community and home were a large factor for many Black Confederates, as it was for the rest of the people in the South. Many people living back in 1860, particularly poor people, knew only the small communities they grew up in. Some folks never traveled more than a couple days walking distance from their homes for most of their lives. Their families were there, either living their lives, or buried in local cemeteries. Some of them several generations that laid their roots there.
Defending those homes, those communities, and those family bonds were the driving factors for young Southern men to join their local regiments and march off. The martial sense of personal duty most Americans believed in at the time was also a factor -- not to mention the opportunity to see more of the world and get away from their mundane jobs, or chores, for a time.
Members of the 2nd SC Regiment camped at Stono Inlet, near Charleston, SC. in 1861. (Photo courtesy of the SC Department of Archives) |
In a Civil War regiment there was no place for idle hands or lazy people. Many of these Black Confederates attached themselves to a group of soldiers to help with the duties of camp life -- of which there was quite a few, and an extra pair of hands were always welcome for the common foot soldier.
Unlike some of the slaves who were brought with their masters, and likely didn't choose to come to war willingly, many free men of color hired themselves out to officers as their servants, or volunteered to serve in the ranks at these various service jobs.
During battles, many of these personal servants and service people would sometimes preform acts of great personal courage. For instance there are many personal accounts recorded of body servants going out into the fields during and after battles looking for their fallen masters -- either looking for a wounded man, or a body. A number of these black slaves would return the body home to family, then return and offer their services back to the unit they were serving with. Often times they stayed with their group and preformed whatever service was required of them until the end of the War.
On many occasions throughout the four years of the War, many of these Black Southern men, in preforming the usual duties of camp life, were on many occasions entrusted by those white Confederate soldiers they both served and served with, to preform extra-ordinary services such as foraging for food supplies, guarding prisoners, and even standing armed sentry post along the front lines.
One such case is that of one Mr. Alex Sarter of Union County, South Carolina. Sarter served in the Army of Northern Virginia first as a slave, and then later as a free man of color. William Sarter, his original owner, was appointed captain in Company B, 18th SC Infantry Regiment on August 1862. Captain Sarter later died the following September from his war wounds, but Alex chose to stay on with the 18th SC after William died, and was often trusted with picket duty. He would be captured during the siege of Petersburg in 1864 and later escape Union custody. He survived the war and is listed among the rolls of the United Confederate Veterans.
In many instances some of these Black Confederates would pick up a fallen weapon and join the men they served with in the front line ranks, fighting for the defense of Dixie no different than any other Confederate soldier. Many of these acts were documented in personal diaries, and on occasions in newspaper accounts of the time detailing some extraordinary acts of courage.
One very good example of this is a small article posted in the New Orleans Daily Crescent on Friday, December 6, 1861 which reads:
"It would be impossible to give an account of all the acts of personal
valor which took place in the fight; but I cannot omit to mention that Levin
Graham, a free colored man, who was employed as a fifer, and attendant to Capt.
(J. Welby) Armstrong (Co. G., 2nd Tennessee), refused to stay in camp when the
regiment moved, and obtaining a musket and cartridges, went across the river
with us.
"He fought manfully, and it is known that he killed four of the Yankees, from one of whom he took a Colt's revolver. He fought through the whole battle, and not a single man in our whole army fought better."
Black Confederate soldiers?
Now this is where Black Confederate Deniers and their white supremacists allies collectively feel they have the greatest advantage in their dehumanizing arguments against the service and humanity of Black Confederates.
If Confederate government policy on arming African-American slaves as soldiers is the first card in the Denier house of cards, then the card that props it up is the argument that individual slaves cannot be soldiers because of this policy. In fact virtually every Denier to a person will gleefully point this detail out in every single argument they make on the subject.
"He fought manfully, and it is known that he killed four of the Yankees, from one of whom he took a Colt's revolver. He fought through the whole battle, and not a single man in our whole army fought better."
Black Confederate soldiers?
Now this is where Black Confederate Deniers and their white supremacists allies collectively feel they have the greatest advantage in their dehumanizing arguments against the service and humanity of Black Confederates.
If Confederate government policy on arming African-American slaves as soldiers is the first card in the Denier house of cards, then the card that props it up is the argument that individual slaves cannot be soldiers because of this policy. In fact virtually every Denier to a person will gleefully point this detail out in every single argument they make on the subject.
This one is what this writer previously referred to as the "slaves not soldiers" argument. This argument erroneously claims that all African-Americans in the Confederate ranks were not legally soldiers and their service was the work of slaves with no minds and no thoughts of their own, coerced there by white masters against their free will.
The first point in this fact, which has been demonstrated here, is that many Black Confederates were in fact free men of color, rather than slaves. Whenever confronted with this detail, the Denier usually argues that such men were few and far between, or they throw up another little strawman argument: Confederate policy says that, before March 1865, African-Americans could not be Confederate soldiers; therefore legally they are not soldiers.
Yes for the most part the Confederate Government as a federal entity prohibited the enlistment of African Americans -- especially slaves -- as armed soldiers in the Confederate army. As I stated before, this is an undeniable historical fact backed up a figurative mountain of evidence in just about every American historical text.
However, pay attention to the keywords "national army" in discussing official Confederate policy regarding Black Confederates. This is a really important point.
Unlike the United States government, with its strong central government -- one that became much stronger as a result of the War, the Confederate States government was a coalition of Southern States, each with their own sovereign State governments. The Confederate national government itself was far weaker in terms of how the Confederate Constitution defined federal power by design.
The Southern States themselves still controlled their own military policies within the Confederate command structure but, unlike the Union, did not entirely surrender total control of their forces as part of a "national army." In many ways this was much like how the original Continental Army was structured during the American Revolutionary War prior to the later ratification of the US Constitution in 1787.
As a result the various Confederate States and individual units often varied from, or ignored outright, many such prohibitions since there were actually very few "national army" regiments at any time during the war with most military units still under state command on loan to the Confederate government.
Some individual Confederate States permitted free blacks to formally enlist in their state militias.
One of the first to do so was the State of Tennessee which passed a law on Friday, June 28, 1861 authorizing the recruitment of state militia units composed of free persons of color between the ages of 15 and 50. The first three provisions of this act read as follows:
Sec. 1. Be it enacted by the General Assembly of the State of Tennessee, That from and after the passage of this act the Governor shall be, and he is hereby, authorized, at his discretion, to receive into the military service of the State all male free persons of color between the ages of fifteen (15) and fifty (50) -- or such numbers as may be necessary, who may be sound in mind and body, and capable of actual service.
Sec. 2. Be it further enacted, That all such free persons of color shall be required to so all such menial service for the relief of the volunteers as is incident to camp life, and necessary to the efficiency of the service, as of which they are capable of performing.
Sec. 3. Be it further enacted, That such free persons of color shall receive, each, eight dollars per month, as pay, and such persons shall be entitled to draw, each, one ration per day, and shall be entitled to a yearly allowance each for clothing.
W. C. WHITTHOUNE, Speaker of the House, of Representatives. B. L. STOVALL, Speaker of the Senate.
Passed June 28, 1861.
*Source: Public Acts of the State of Tennessee Passed at the Extra Session of the Thirty-Third General Assembly. April 1861. AN ACT for the relief of Volunteers. Chapter 24 [Pg 49-50].
The State of Louisiana, which had a sizable free black population (see graph table above), followed suit and assembled the all-black 1st Louisiana Native Guard. This regiment was later forced to disband in February, 1862 when the state legislature passed a law in January, 1862, that reorganized the militia by conscripting “all the free white males capable of bearing arms… irrespective of nationality”.
It should be noted that the 1st LA Native Guard did not see any real combat in Confederate service, though many members did re-enlist when the Union occupation of New Orleans took over in 1862 and was reformed as a Yankee regiment.
The State of Alabama authorized the enlistment of "mixed blood" (mulatto) Creoles in 1862 for a State militia unit in Mobile. Some Black Confederates were of mixed ethnicity and some could pass as white men and joined regular State regiments as private soldiers.
At least one Black Confederate was a non-commissioned officer. 3rd Sergeant James Washington of Co. D, 35th Texas Cavalry.
Now the Deniers start screaming, These men where not official soldiers! It's all about official Confederate government policy stupid!
Not according to the accepted literature of the time. In fact, in American military history, the definition of soldier is not entirely restricted to those who were formally enlisted.
The following is an excerpt from the Customs of Service For Non-Commissioned Officers and Enlisted Men written by Union General August V. Kautz (and take special note of what it says about musicians, this will shortly be important):
THE PRIVATE SOLDIER.
IN the fullest sense, any man in the military service who receives
pay, whether sworn in or not, is a soldier, because he is subject to military
law. Under this general head, laborers, teamsters, sutlers, chaplains, &c. are
soldiers. In a more limited sense, a private soldier is a man enlisted in the
military service to serve in the cavalry, artillery, or infantry. He is said to
be enlisted when he has been examined, his duties of obedience explained to him,
and after he has taken the prescribed oath.
“Any free white [*] male person above the age of eighteen, and under thirty-five years of age, being
at least five feet three inches high; effective, able-bodied, sober, free from
disease, of good character and habits, and with a competent knowledge of the
English language, may be enlisted as a soldier” (Reg. 929.) This regulation
makes exceptions in favor of musicians and soldiers who have served one
enlistment, although they should be under the prescribed height and age. A
soldier cannot claim a discharge in consequence of any defect in the above
requirements, unless, in case of a minor, he can prove that the requirements of
the law have not been complied with in his enlistment.
[*] The enlistment of Negroes and Indians is a peculiarity of the volunteer service, and has not yet been authorized for the regular service.
Furthermore, despite Denier claims that the Confederate government did not approve of Black Confederate service, it might surprise the reader that the Confederate Congress did in fact officially recognize the service of those African-Americans preforming their jobs in Confederate regiments....and passed two laws authorizing equal payment for those services!
The following are military rules approved by the Confederate Congress in regards to Black Confederates.
Chapter XXIX. - AN ACT for the payment of musicians in the Army not regularly enlisted.
The Congress of the Confederate States of America do enact, That whenever colored persons are employed as musicians in any regiment or company, they shall be entitled to the same pay now allowed by law to musicians regularly enlisted: Provided, That no such persons shall be so employed except by the consent of the commanding officer of the brigade to which said regiments or companies may belong.
Approved April 15, 1862.
Chapter LXIV. - A BILL [AN ACT] for the enlistment of cooks in the Army.
The Congress of the Confederate Slates of America do enact, That hereafter it shall be [the] duty of the captain or commanding officer of his company to enlist four cooks for the use of his company, whose duty it shall be to cook for such company--taking charge of the supplies, utensils and other things furnished therefor, and safely keep the same, subject to such rules and regulations as may be prescribed by the War Department or the colonel of the regiment to which such company may be attached:
[SEC. 2.] Be it further enacted, That the cooks so directed to be enlisted, may be white or black, free or slave persons: Provided, however, That no slave shall be so enlisted, without the written consent of his owner. And such cooks shall be enlisted as such only, and put on the muster-roll and paid at the time and place the company may or shall be paid off, $20 per month to the chief or head cook, and $15 per month for each of the assistant cooks, together with the same allowance for clothing, or the same commutation therefor that may be allowed to the rank and file of the company.
Approved April 21, 1862.
*Source: Public Laws of the Confederate States of America Passed at the First Session of the First Congress 1862 (Pages. 29 & 48).
It would be here that the Denier would jumped out of their seat to scream: Musicians are NOT soldiers!
In point of fact they were according to the official Confederate military policy. In fact here are a couple of rather interesting excerpt from the Regulations for the Army of the Confederate States 1863:
75. The musicians of the band will, for the time being, be dropped from company muster-rolls, but they will be instructed as soldiers, and liable to serve in the ranks on any occasion. They will be mustered in a separate squad under the chief musician, with the non-commissioned staff, and be included in the aggregate in all regimental returns.
1400. No person under the age of twenty-one years is to be enlisted without the written consent of his parent, guardian, or master. The recruiting officers must be very particular in ascertaining the true age of the recruit, and will not accept him when there is a doubt of his being of age.
*Source: Regulations for the Army of the Confederate States 1863 (Pages 13 & 178).
There is no doubt that musicians faced bullets and cannon shots, especially the regiment's drummers who accompanied the regiments onto the battlefield. There are literally a hundred individual accounts of drummers on both sides of the War who were wounded in battle -- the most famous account is probably the Union soldier Johnny Clem, the Drummer Boy of Shiloh and Chickamauga.
Wagon drivers were certainly subject to the dangers of battle, particularly the men delivering ammunition, or driving the teams that carried the artillery to the field. Stretcher bearers and men who drove the hospital wagons, many of them also Black Confederates, were also subject to stray bullets from the enemy -- sometimes deliberate fire by enemy snipers.
How does a Denier respond to this information? Well, usually with a lot of stammering, or more often with the sound of their deafening silence.
Official Records Of Black Confederate Service
Many of the muster rolls of various Confederate units list Black Confederates under military rank in addition to their service rolls. Keep in mind that this is not always a constant with every Confederate unit and regiment -- again that variation between the standards set for each State's troops -- but it is clear from such evidence that these men were considered an integral part of the unit itself. It also shows that many of these men were not in fact all slaves, but free men of color. This further shows that the "slaves not soldiers" arguments so often purported by Deniers to be a falsehood.
There were many recorded instances of combat service of Black Confederates which can be found in the Federal Official Records, Northern and Southern newspapers and the letters and diaries of soldiers from both sides. In addition there are recorded instances of Black Southerners serving as regularly-enlisted combat soldiers before the Union allowed enlistment of African-Americans.
The following passages are from The War of the Rebellion: Official Records of the Civil War.
Federal Official Records, Series I, Vol XVI Part I, pg. 805, Lt. Col. Parkhurst's Report (Ninth Michigan Infantry) on General Forrest's attack at Murfreesboro, Tenn, July 13, 1862:
"The forces attacking my camp were the First Regiment Texas Rangers [8th Texas Cavalry, Terry's Texas Rangers, ed.], Colonel Wharton, and a battalion of the First Georgia Rangers, Colonel Morrison, and a large number of citizens of Rutherford County, many of whom had recently taken the oath of allegiance to the United States Government. There were also many negroes attached to the Texas and Georgia troops, who were armed and equipped, and took part in the several engagements with my forces during the day."
Union officials and even those in the US Government itself were fully aware of the existence of Black Confederates.
Federal Official Records, Correspondence, Etc., Vol. II, pg. 218 -
"...they [the Confederacy] have, by means of sweeping conscription, gathered in countless hordes, and threaten to overwhelm the armies of the Union, with blood and treason in their hearts. They flaunt the black flag of rebellion in the face of the Government, and threaten to butcher our brave and loyal armies with foreign bayonets. They arm negroes and merciless savages in their behalf."
- July 11, 1862 - Rich D. Yates, Governor of Illinois to President Abraham Lincoln.
Perhaps the most telling of such accounts from a Union source detailing the service of Black Confederates in Southern ranks comes from the official report of Dr. Lewis H. Steiner, Inspector of the US Sanitary Commission.
Steiner was present in the town of Frederick, Maryland on Wednesday, September 10, 1862 when the Army of Northern Virginia passed through in their first invasion of the North. He watched the Confederate army pass from the second story window of a hotel.
It should be noted that as a pro-Unionist, Dr. Steiner did not paint the Confederate army in a particularly positive light in his report. He takes great pains to point out outrage and outrage -- true or otherwise -- that the Confederates allegedly did when they marched through town. His description of the presence of African-Americans in the Confederate ranks is therefore not meant to be a complement, rather an example of racial prejudice. For Steiner, the presence of Black Southerners in the ranks just serves as another moral outrage to be condemned and presents their presence as such. Yet despite his clear prejudices, Dr. Steiner's accounts offer a very eye-opening pair of statements on the presence of Black Confederates.
Here is the first, on pages 19-20 of the report:
"Wednesday, September 10. -- At four o'clock this morning the rebel army began to move from our town, Jackson's force taking the advance. The movement continued until eight o'clock P.M., occupying 16 hours. The most liberal calculations could not give them more than 64,000 men.
Over 3,000 negroes must be included in this number. These were clad in all kinds of uniforms, not only in cast-off or captured United States uniforms, but in coats with Southern buttons, State buttons, ect. These were shabby, but not shabbier or seedier than those worn by white men in the rebel ranks. Most of the negroes had arms, rifles, muskets, sabres, bowie-knives, dirks, etc. They were supplied, in many instances, with knapsacks, haversacks, canteens, etc., and were manifestly an integral portion of the Southern Confederacy Army. They were seen riding on horses and mules, driving wagons, riding on caissons, in ambulances, with the staff of Generals, and promiscuously mixed up with all the rebel horde. The fact was patent, and rather interesting when considered in connection with the horror rebels express at the suggestion of black soldier being employed for National defense."
From that point on, Steiner offers some less than flattering comments about the state of the Confederate army, and then on page 21 of his report, he offers yet another interesting comment regarding African-Americans in the Confederate ranks:
"Their apologies for regimental bands were vile and excruciating. The only real music in the column to-day was from a bugle blown by a negro. Drummers and fifers of the same color abounded in their ranks."
The following story about Black Confederates on picket duty near Fredericksburg, Virginia appeared in New York's Harper's Weekly newspaper dated Saturday, January 10, 1863:
REBEL NEGRO PICKETS
So
much has been said about the wickedness of using the negroes on our side in the
present war, that we have thought it worthwhile to reproduce on this page a
sketch sent us from Fredricksburg by our artist, Mr. Theodore R. Davis, which
is a faithful representation of what was seen by one of our officers through
his field-glass, while on outpost duty at that place. As the picture shows, it
represents two full-blooded negroes, fully armed, and serving as pickets in the
rebel army. It has long been known to military men that the insurgents affect
no scruples about the employment of their slaves in any capacity in which they
may be found useful. Yet there are people here in the North who affect the be
horrified at the enrollment of negroes into regiments. Let us hope that the
President will not be deterred by and squeamish scruples of the kind from
garrisoning the Southern forts which fighting men of any color that can be obtained.
Deniers would argue that both the Steiner report and the account in Harper's Weekly is just propaganda used to promote the idea for enlisting African-Americans for the United States Colored Troops -- which was really not a popular idea in the Northern States in late 1862 and through much of 1863. If the Rebels were doing it, then why not the national army? Yet this would not account for the many official Federal reports that expressly state that Union soldiers encountered armed Black Confederates in battle.
Here the ever desperate Deniers start sweating and begin to flat out deny the official historical records, and they shout: The reports are not accurate! Battle accounts are not real evidence! After that they tend to refer back to the previous strawman arguments that Black Confederates cannot be soldiers because of official government policies -- which have just been demonstrated to be failed arguments.
Now if the verified testimony of Union sources is not enough, how about a source from a more neutral witness?
During the summer of 1863, Lieutenant Colonel Sir Arthur James Lyon Fremantle of the British Army traveled with Lee's Army into Pennsylvania and was present during the Gettysburg Campaign. His observations as an unofficial military observer were published later on and include the following amusing story and personal observation:
I saw a most laughable spectacle this afternoon-viz., a negro dressed in full Yankee uniform, with a rifle at full cock, leading along a barefooted white man, with whom he had evidently changed clothes. General Longstreet stopped the pair, and asked the black man what it meant. He replied, "The two soldiers in charge of this here Yank have got drunk, so for fear he should escape I have took care of him, and brought him through that little town." The consequential manner of the negro, and the supreme contempt with which he spoke to his prisoner, were most amusing. This little episode of a Southern slave leading a white Yankee soldier through a Northern village, alone and of his own accord, would not have been gratifying to an abolitionist. Nor would the sympathizers both in England and in the North feel encouraged if they could hear the language of detestation and contempt with which the numerous negroes with the Southern armies speak of their liberators.*
* From what I have seen of the Southern negroes, I am of opinion that the Confederates could, if they chose, convert a great number into soldiers; and from the affection which undoubtedly exists as a general rule between the slaves and their masters, I think that they would prove more efficient than black troops under any other circumstances. But I do not imagine that such an experiment will be tried, except as a very last resort, partly on account of the great value of the negroes, and partly because the Southerners consider it improper to introduce such an element on a large scale into civilized warfare. Any person who has seen negro features convulsed with rage, may form a slight estimate of what the result would be of arming a vast number of blacks, rousing their passions, and then allowing them free scope.
*Source: Three Months In The Southern States (April - June 1863) By Col. Fremantle (Pg. 141-142)
As Sir Arthur pointed out from the story and his personal observation, individual Black Confederates showed considerable loyalty to the units they served with. He also pointed out that the Confederacy could have utilized slaves as regular soldiers on a wider scale (i.e. in whole Black Regiments) and the various reasons why the Confederacy refused to do so....on a large scale -- meaning instead of just individuals among whole regiments of regular Confederate units.
4th Tennessee Cavalry CSA, Black Trooper, Chickamauga, Sep. 1863. Artwork by Don Troiani Pg. 208, "Regiment's & Uniforms of the Civil War." |
One of the best documented examples occurred in September 1863, during the Battle of Chickamauga.
The 4th Tennessee Cavalry had a black servant named Daniel McLemore, servant to the Colonel of the regiment, organize a group of servants into a company of between 40-50 men. They were at first ordered to guard the horses of the soldiers, but sitting out of the fighting long enough, they asked a Captain Joseph P. Briggs, the company's quartermaster, if they could participate in the fighting.
Captain Briggs recalled that: "After trying to dissuade them from this, I gave in and led them up to the line of battle in which was just preparing to assault Gen. Thomas's position. Thinking they would be of service in caring for the wounded, I held them close up the line, but when the advance was ordered the negro company became enthused as well as their masters, and filled a portion of the line of advance as well as any company of the regiment. While they had no guidon or muster roll, the burial after the battle of four of their number and the care of seven wounded at the hospital, told the tale of how well they fought."
Muster roll and gravestone of Confederate cavalryman Wiley Stewart, Co. H, 4th Tennessee Cavalry CSA. Both list him as a Free Man Of Color. Stewart is buried among comrades at the Confederate cemetery in Griffin, Georgia. |
One more interesting note about the service of these Confederates of Color that Deniers of their service rarely mention is their status as seen by the Union military when captured in the course of the war.
Black Confederates were often captured on the field and imprisoned in Union prisoner of war camps along with all of the Confederate servicemen -- pretty bizarre if these men were not viewed as enemy combatants in some capacity, huh?
Black Veterans In American Wars
Now allow me to add another critical point about African-Americans in the ranks of Southern citizen militias: they did not exist in a vacuum.
Prior to the American Civil War, individual black men -- both slaves and free men of color -- also served in the militias of Southern States during the French and Indian War (1754-1763) and the American Revolutionary War (1775-1783) preforming the same jobs as members of those State militias and military units as their grandchildren would later do in the War Between the States, including -- yep, you guessed it -- combat roles.
At the final phase of the Battle of Cowpens (January 17, 1781), a young African American soldier and bugler named Asher Crockett, heroically rode up and fired his pistol at a British cavalryman saving the life of his commanding officer, Colonel William Washington. (Painting by William Ranney) |
During the final stages of the battle, Colonel Washington and several of his dragoons were involved in a personal duel with several British Legion Cavalry officers -- including the infamous Colonel Banastre Tarleton. As Washington was about to be cut down by a British saber, Crockett rode up and shot the man from his horse with a pistol, likely saving his commander's life.
Crockett was only one of an estimated 10 or 12 African-Americans present among the Continentals and local militia forces fighting at the battle. This is just one of many individual profiles of courage and personal valor shown by Black Southerners in over a hundred years of American wars prior to the War Between The States in 1861.
There are also many accounts coming to light in recent years about the service of Black British Loyalists who also fought with Loyalist militias and were formally enlisted among the British Provincials and Hessian ranks in the regular British Army as uniformed soldiers, among the other usual service jobs.
Of course, if we hold to the Black Confederate Denier argument of "slaves not soldiers" then none of these American men of color could be counted as real soldiers either -- just musicians, cooks, and "ditch diggers" brought there by some rich white officer against their will.
The
Daily Dispatch (Richmond, VA.) January 29, 1861. One of the earliest examples of a Southern free person of color offering to raise a military company. Note that Mr. Joe Clark was a military veteran, wounded in the "Indian War" (Likely the Creek War of 1836). |
Sorry, but as my grandpa would have put it, that dog just don't hunt. Simple common sense logic suggests this could not possibly be the case.
Curiously your average pointy-nosed Denier "intellectual" doesn't make any attempt to point out this contradiction beyond -- yep, you guessed it! -- again parroting and stonewalling the previous talking points.
How Many Black Confederates Were There?
Depending on who you listen to and what sources you site the number of Black Confederates who preformed the duty of soldier ranges from a few hundred to around 100,000 -- though neither one is completely accurate.
Now obviously the 100,000 number is an gross exaggeration, but the few hundred number is also in dispute.
Historians estimate that the aggregate for the size of the Confederate military during the four years of the war totaled between 750,000 - 800,000 soldiers, sailors and home guard (state militias). Of this number about 25% of these men were under the command of General Robert E. Lee in the Army of Northern Virginia, which reached it's peak strength of around 90,000 in June of 1862.
Now its possible that 100,000 Southern black men (again slaves and freemen alike) could have been in service in those roles over those four years collectively -- possible, though not very likely.
However, keep in mind that not every one of these African-American in Confederate service was necessarily a Southern loyalist by any stretch of the imagination -- again I site the story of Robert Smalls as the best example. Loyalty to masters, neighbors and friends is more of a common factor, and each level of loyalty different for every individual person.
Some of the slaves and "body servants" would leave and not come back after their master was killed and wounded, and almost certainly some took advantage of being close to Union lines to head North to Canada and freedom; while others would return and stay with their former master's units and continue to serve as they saw fit.
In fact, on occasions when Black Confederates were captured by Union soldiers and imprisoned in POW camps, many of them refused to turn coats, or abandon their fellow Confederates.
No, the true number would likely be in the 10,000 - 60,000 range for those Southern blacks who performed service roles in the Confederate army, but not so much the actual act of performing soldiers' work, or taking part in battle. The actual number who might have served on the battlefield over four years collectively might be best estimated at 5,000 at the most.
This estimate is largely shared by several historians including Professor John Stauffer, the former chair of American studies at Harvard University in a well-written 2015 article entitled: Yes, There Were Black Confederates. Here's Why when he states:
"I estimate that between 3,000 and 6,000 served as Confederate soldiers. Another 100,000 or so blacks, mostly slaves, supported the Confederacy as laborers, servants and teamsters. They built roads, batteries and fortifications; manned munitions factories -- essentially did the Confederacy’s dirty work."
Also keep in mind that, with a couple of exceptions (the escorts who rode with General Forrest's cavalry, or the 30-40 man group of Black Confederates of the 4th Tennessee Cavalry who took part together in a couple of fights mentioned previously) there were no whole regiments, or large units of Black Confederates as soldiers until just before the close of the War itself.
A more accurate depiction of the service of a Black Confederate showing an individual integrated into the ranks of a Southern unit, as opposed to the larger numbers in whole segregated regiments as the United States Colored Troops were. Artwork by artist Bradley Schmehl. |
Now consider the size of actual Civil War regiments during the course of the war itself. Each regiment had about ten companies that consisted of about 80 to 100 men, giving us a regimental strength of anywhere between 800 to 1,000 men. There was an estimated 1,010 Confederate regiments throughout the war.
Its believed that each Confederate regiment had no less than about 4 to 10 black slaves or men of color at any given time throughout the war. So on average one can estimate that the number of African-Americans in these ranks comes to anywhere between 4,000 to just under 10,000 -- the latter being the most liberal estimate.
However, it should be pointed out these are not consistent numbers, and certainly not all of these estimated men were Black Confederate loyalists.
Ultimately we will likely never know the true number since their service was largely only recognized by the men they served with, and most official records often didn't list every single act of heroism that "official" soldiers preformed, let alone what a black drummer boy, or wagoner, or cook who picked up a fallen rifle and joined the battle line would have done.
At best, in each of those regiments, out of the possible 4 to 10 black men, then number that actually saw real combat would be about one or two at best out of a regiment of hundreds. An overall moderate average of around 2,000 or so overall in an army estimated at about 800,000 men.
Now when compared to the larger number of African-Americans loyal to the Union, and who served with distinction as members of the USCT (approximately 178,600 Union Army soldiers spread over about 160 full regiments of about a thousand men each -- of which an estimated 140,000 were themselves Southern born) in segregated all-black regiments, the numbers of Black Confederates are hardly impressive. These small number of Black Southern loyalists ultimately did nothing to turn the war in favor of the South.
Now here is where the Deniers get all discombobulated, and the rants come out: You're just trying to cover up what the war was REALLY about! It was all about slavery!
It should be pointed out that the presence of these Confederates of Color in the ranks of the Confederate soldier does nothing to prove, or disprove, one way or another what the causes of the war were. It does not chance what was written in the Ordinances of Secession for several Southern States. It does not change what Confederate Vice President Alexander Stephens said in his infamous "Cornerstone Speech" or the provisions about slavery in the Confederate Constitution. Neither does it change the reality of the racial attitudes towards people of color in America in the 1860s.
Any so-called "neo-Confederates" who believe that the presence of these men and their service undermines the national historical narrative on the reasons for either secession and the war that followed simply delude themselves, and making that case is not a valid reason for respecting the service of these men, or any Confederate soldier no matter their ethnic origin.
Ultimately the existence of African-Americans as Confederate Veterans does not alter historical facts that even most Confederate heritage groups acknowledge to be true. The ever-present argument over the specific causes of the War Between the States won't be settled just because it can be proven that some of the boys who wore gray and butternut and took shots at invading blue-bellies had darker skin tones.
Whatever latent fears one has for recognizing these men for their service, or calling them soldiers -- even unofficial ones -- one thinks will impact civil war history, such recognition does nothing to prove or disprove the role of slavery in the conflict, nor discredit one side or the other. Nor is this the reason that Confederate heritage groups and other proud Confederate descendants choose to honor these men, or any other Confederate veteran.
Modern Acknowledgment Of Black Confederates
In truth, Black Confederate Denial historical negationism truly doesn't offer much more than a repeat of the same previous talking points, as if those points alone are the only relevant facts. Deniers believe that they and they alone have the moral imperative to interpret history properly.
That is not to say they still don't have a few more arguments left, even though the next cards in their wobbly house stand on very shaky foundations.
The next argument thrown out by Deniers is to claim that the argument over Black Confederates is about downplaying, or diminishing the role of the United States Colored Troops and their service to the Union for freedom.
This argument in particular is one of the most insulting, especially for people like this writer who hold nothing but the highest respect for all American soldiers and their service to the history of the country of my birth. I mean every one of them, including: Colonial militiamen, Continental Army Regulars, British Loyalist Provincials, Native-American braves, US military service persons who fought in all of America's foreign wars, and yes, especially Union and Confederate Veterans.
I have no personal issue with honoring the service of the Union soldier, even though he was admittedly the invader and killed my own Confederate great-great-grandfather at Chickamauga. I most certainly respect the Confederate soldier, and I am certainly proud to be the descendant of one. Certainly I will defend his good name -- the name I share -- by all honorable means and with as much common sense logic I can muster.
I also respect the memory of those Union men no less than I do the memory of the British soldiers who landed in America in 1776 to try and restore the authority of the British Crown to the newly independent and united thirteen sovereign American States. They were invaders, but also men who fought for principles they believed in, and individuals who had dreams and lives no different than the people they fought.
Also as someone who once helped with the cleaning of the graves of fallen USCT soldiers, this proud Confederate descendant would be one of the first to acknowledge the service and heroism of the men of the USCT and their role in the preservation of the Union, and putting an end of American slavery.
Now here is where a Black Confederate Denier would be choking on his drink, or otherwise getting his computer screen wet from spitting said drink on it. So you admit it?! The Confederates fought for slavery!
Yeah and this leads into one of the Denier's biggest and probably most repetitious talking points: the false claim that the honoring of Black Confederates by modern-day Confederate heritage defenders, is about deflecting the so-called "true cause" of the War Between the States and denigrates the honor of Black Union Veterans.
A Black Confederate Denier will drone on-and-on-and-on their claim that Confederate heritage defenders and groups like the Sons of Confederate Veterans and United Daughters of the Confederacy have only brought up the subject of Black Confederates in the years following the end of the 1960s and the Civil Rights Era. Some will even offer a specific year -- 1977.
It was in 1977 that the TV mini-series Roots, based on the extraordinary novel Roots: The Saga of an American Family by Alex Haley, played in millions of homes across America. The story depicts the terrible personal horrors of African slavery from the dramatized point of view of the linear descendants of Mr. Haley himself, starting with an African boy named Kunta Kinte, portrayed brilliantly by actor LeVar Burton of Star Trek: The Next Generation and Reading Rainbow fame.
Now here is where we start to delve into conspiracy theory territory folks. Please bear with me because this is where some of the more long-winded Deniers set up the rest of the deck onto their now wobbly house of cards.
The argument advanced by these Deniers, and other historical false flaggers who promote them, is that after the release of Roots and the end of the Civil Rights Movement, groups like the SCV and UDC began propping up Black Confederates in an effort to prevent what they saw as the beginning of the backlash and destruction of Confederate symbols at the time.
To solidify this absurd claim, Deniers site two reports from then SCV Commander-in-Chief Mr. Dean Boggs written in early 1977 as proof positive of their claims. The following are the excerpts of those memos, in their entirety:
From the Report of the Adjutant-in-Chief, Feb. 28, 1977:
1. THE COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF SAYS:
Commander-in-Chief Dean Boggs has requested that the following information be published.
To counteract the drive of NAACP to ban the display of the Confederate Flag, the playing of Dixie, etc. and to counteract such propaganda movies as “Roots,” I have persuaded Compatriot Francis W. Springer, a historian and talented Virginia writers to write a book on the contribution of Negroes in the south to the Confederate war effort.
He is going to research all sources available but feels sure the sources available to him will not tell the whole story by any means. Thus, I call your attention to the following request from Compatriot Springer for assistance from all Compatriots.
COMPATRIOTS! GET ON THIS PROJECT RIGHT AWAY. SEARCH YOUR FAMILY PAPERS FOR LETTERS AND DIARIES OF 1861-18 65; WRACK YOUR MEMORY FOR STORIES HANDED DOWN BY THE “OLD FOLKS”; VISIT YOUR LOCAL MUSEUMS AND LIBRARIES FOR RECORDS OF SERVICES PERFORMED BY SOUTHERN NEGROES, SLAVE OR FREE, FOR THE CONFEDERACY
Suddenly, after more than 100 years, it seems to have become “good politics” to assert that the flags, uniforms, and songs of the Confederacy are repugnant to negroes. This is childish nonsense. Politics often ignores the truth, and the truth is that the majority of Southern Negroes, slave and free, sided the Confederate war effort tremendously. Some were under arms and in combat.
From the Report of the Adjutant-in-Chief, April 30, 1977.
1. THE COMMANDER- IN-CHIEF SAYS:
Commander-in-chief Dean Boggs has requested that the following information be published:
CONTRIBUTIONS OF SOUTHERN NEGROES TO THE CONFEDERATE WAR EFFORT
All Compatriots are reminded of the announcement in the last issue of the General Headquarters News Bulletin that Compatriot Francis W. Springer, a talented writer and historian, has been persuaded by the Commander-in-chief to write a book on the above subject.
This is to counteract the efforts of the NAACP to portray the Confederate Flag and the playing of "Dixie", as offensive to blacks, and the propaganda line of such movies as "Roots," By their work on the farms, by accompanying their masters to War, and in many other ways, Southern Negroes made a valuable contribution to the Confederate war effort. After they were freed, many of them would not leave their former masters.
It is believed that the record will show that the majority of Southern Negroes made a greater contribution to the Confederacy, than the minority did for the Union.
Compatriot Springer is going to research all sources available to him but he is sure the sources available to him will not tell the whole story. He needs your help!
Please forward to him all items on this subject in your family history and records, and please research your local library and any other sources available to you.
*Source: Sons of Confederate Veterans National HQ.
So, do these particular statements offer proof positive of the Denier's claim that prior to 1977 and the premiere of Roots that there were no Black Confederate Veterans?
Not even close!
The truth there is a bit more reasonable that some imagined desperate meeting in a smoke-filled room, or some memos passed down from the heads of the SCV and UDC.
The real reason that more emphasis on Black Confederates came about in the 1970s has far more to do with the overall effort on the part of Americans to recognize black achievements in every part of American history that began about that time. Effort on the part of forward-thinking Americans which had more to do with countering the overall whitewashing of US history in academia at the time -- particularly American military history.
Prior to the early 1970s only a few academics and serious history buffs were even aware that Black Americans fought both as Patriots and Loyalists in the American Revolutionary War, or of the notable efforts of the Buffalo Soldiers in the American West and the Spanish-American War (1898), or the 369th US Infantry Regiment "Harlem Hellfighters" who fought with the American Expeditionary Forces in the First World War (1917-1918).
Indeed few Americans in the general public really even knew about the United States Colored Troops who fought for the Union Army until the 1989 release of the film Glory which depicted the somewhat accurate account (for Hollywood) of the early service of the 54th Massachusetts Infantry Regiment, one of the first African-American units of the US Army.
Now the fact that few people had public knowledge of the service of any of these men does not mean they did not exist, or that the service they provided as soldiers and veterans counts for any less. Obviously someone remembered who they were and finally made the effort to move past the historical whitewashing of US history to tell their story. These men, long put into the background of history are finally getting the recognition they deserve for their valor and sacrifices -- many times in the face of hostile discrimination from the very country they fought to defend.
In truth Confederate heritage organizations and groups that honor the Confederate citizen soldier have always known about these Confederates of Color, and honored their individual service as Southern Veterans since the end of the War Between the States.
If anything the two memos sited show that the SCV was getting onboard with a larger national narrative that was shifting to include public awareness of the service of African-Americans. The fact that attacks on Confederate symbols by the NAACP and the broadcasting of the series Roots were the catalyst for launching a broader effort to make the public aware of this fact are irrelevant, and do not make a vast "neo-Confederate" conspiracy.
Some Deniers even go a bit farther and claim that there were no mention of Black Confederates as Confederate Veterans prior to the release of Roots in 1977.
Those claims are more than easy to refute.
The following are pictures from several reunions of the United Confederate Veterans, all of which include several Black Confederate Veterans present among the ranks.
1916 UCV Reunion, Birmingham, Alabama. |
1909 UCV Parade, Memphis, Tennessee. |
1931 UCV Reunion, Asheville, North Carolina |
Richmond, Virginia at R.E. Lee Camp 1917. |
1929 UCV Reunion, Mufreesboro, Tennessee. |
191 UCV Reunion, Lancaster, South Carolina. |
The following newspaper accounts also show that Black Confederates were far from forgotten by their local communities, and acknowledged by their fellow Confederate Veterans for their service. Many of these Confederates of Color were buried with full honors -- and in Confederate uniform!
Richmond (Virginia) Dispatch, November 29, 1891. |
Darlington, South Carolina, November 1907. |
The Anderson (South Carolina) Intelligencer, March 18, 1886 |
Black Confederates were very much a part of the original United Confederate Veterans and were in fact honored as any other Confederate veteran was locally by their peers (white and black) all throughout the late 19th and early 20th centuries. Many of those same Black Confederates were often buried in Confederate uniforms with battle flags draping their coffins and carried by white and black pallbearers who were also former war veterans.
Black Confederate Veterans attended many of the United Confederate Veterans reunions following the end of the War and well into the 1940s, something that modern-day social justice warriors will scream could not have been possible because of the Jim Crow segregation at the time.
Now the Black Confederate Denial house of cards begins to fall apart and your typical Denier starts to rave and shout that these men were acknowledged just to promote the old "faithful slaves" narrative.
But wait? Didn't these folks just claim that there were no Black Confederates honored prior of the end of the Civil Rights Movement? If so then why would the Confederate Veterans themselves and the organizations honoring their memories carry on honor these Confederates of Color?
Obviously the idea that these people actually respected and cared about these men as Confederate Veterans, let alone acknowledged their service as that of a typical Confederate soldier, is something far beyond the limited worldview of the Denier.
That respect was well reciprocated, as evidenced by the story of Black Mississippi Representative Mr. John F. Harris, a native of Greenville, Mississippi. A former slave and Black Confederate Veteran, he spoke eloquently in February of 1890 on his experiences serving with the Confederate Army at the battles of the Seven Days Battles of the Peninsula Campaign around Richmond in 1862 in favor of the creation of the Jackson, Mississippi Confederate Soldiers Memorial that was later built a year later and stands on the state capitol.
Here the Deniers scream out with shrill voices: But there is no academic study of Black Confederates before the 1970s!
Once again, their narrative is very much in error.
In fact one of the earliest scholarly works that mention Black Confederates was historian Charles Harris Wesley's essay written in The Journal of Negro History (Volume IV -- July, 1919 -- No. 3, Pages 239-253). The fact this is not a journal usually read by Civil War historians in general meant that the essay went largely unnoticed, I will give the Deniers the benefit of the doubt. Mr. Wesley, who was both African-American and former member of the NAACP, certainly cannot be called a "neo-Confederate" (sic) by any stretch of the imagination.
Wesley began by noting that in the early days of the War most black Southerners saw the Union invasion of the South as an attack on independent States and their homes, same as white Southerners (and other people of color in the Confederacy, though Wesley overlooked this detail at the time). He then traced the Confederacy's use of black labor on defense projects and wrote a state-by-state examination of the policies of each State toward the role of Black Southerners in the war, noting that many of the Southern States allowed black enlistment into local militia and home guard ranks.
Because of its general nature, Wesley's essay does not mention any particular individual service, and concludes (erroneously as it has been demonstrated) that these men likely didn't serve in any major battle. The essay also traced the wide debate with the Confederate Congress over the idea of creating whole regiments of Southern slaves formally into Confederate Soldiers -- a history this blogger concedes to be what the national historical record concludes to be accurate, and has never denied in this post.
None-the-less the fact this essay was written well before the 1970s when Deniers claim a conspiracy was established to rewrite the historical narrative and create a fictitious "Rainbow Confederacy" shows that either Black Confederate Deniers omit facts that discredit their own narrative, or they simply do not do their homework very well.
Honoring The Black Confederate Veteran
One of the arguments of Deniers is simply to scream racism -- another popular tune on that broken record they love playing over and over and over and over and over. They argue strongly that the racism of the time prevented black men to be perceived as equals in any way.
As I said before, I'm not going to paint some picture that racial attitudes during the War and well after it in the American South were anything less than terrible by the standards we hold to in the 21st century.
It must also be acknowledged that, despite the efforts of some former Confederate veterans, many Black Confederate veterans did not receive pensions for their service in the War for decades. Some Southern States like Tennessee for example awarded pensions to Black Confederates not long after the end of Reconstruction, while other states like South Carolina took at long as 1932 to finally provide financial aid for their Confederate service, by which time many of these veterans of color were long dead.
Despite being part of an army that lost a war, the memory of the Confederate soldier was revered in the South following the Reconstruction Era (1867-1876). Indeed I have pointed out on several occasions that efforts to honor the dead happened almost immediately following the War, even if it was little more than Southern women decorating the graves of the honored dead. Many of the monuments you see standing today across the South honoring the Confederate Veteran were largely built around the turn of the century due largely to the wide-spread poverty in the region following the War. Some of those monuments took decades to raise money for, and for many, were the only headstones that grieving families would ever have.
Because of this, the United Daughters of the Confederacy took it upon themselves to acknowledge the service of these men and boys by creating a special commemorative medal in 1899 called the Southern Cross of Honor.
This medal could only be bestowed through the United Daughters of the Confederacy and was given in recognition of loyal, honorable service to the South. It could not be legally purchased and only a Confederate veteran could wear it.
United Confederate Veteran Caleb Glover wearing his Southern Cross of Honor medal awarded to him by the United Daughters of the Confederacy. That medal was awarded only to Confederate Veterans. |
In short, only an honored and acknowledged Confederate veteran would be allowed to wear it in public.
Approximately 18,761 of these medals were issued to Confederate Veterans. Now then, consider that there were likely still around (and this is a guess mind you) oh say, a few hundred thousand of these aged veterans left at the turn of the century. That means that this award was likely only given to men who were recognized by their peers as having distinguished themselves during the War.
Needless to say that impersonating a Confederate veteran -- stolen valor as we would call it -- would land someone in really hot water, especially a Black Southerner considering the attitudes during the Jim Crow era.
An illustration from page 2 of the 1923 UCV Reunion newsletter The Stars and Bars depicting a Black Confederate Veteran at reunions wearing the Southern Cross of Honor. |
For that matter, what about white Confederate veterans attitudes towards their fellow Confederates of color?
This folks is perhaps the greatest point of this argument.
As I pointed out before many Black Confederate veterans were not given pensions, and some had to rely on the charity of their fellow veterans, who would "pass the hat" around and provide for these men. Many white Confederate veterans also lobbied hard to see to it that these African-American veterans were admitted to Confederate Soldiers Homes in their old age, and receive the pensions they'd earned through their service.
After the War, at UCV Reunions, many of these men were often recognized as veterans by the soldiers they served with, and counted by those men as part of the unit. As I demonstrated before with photographs from several reunions of the United Confederate Veterans, Confederates of color were present at a number of these events. Obviously if these men were viewed as anything less than fellow veterans by the other former Confederates, they would have been told to hit the road and never come back.
During the reunion at the 50th anniversary of the Battle of Gettysburg (July 1-3) in 1913 several Black Confederate veterans were in attendance. There is an incredible story that the people who set up the event didn't account for their presence and had no accommodations arranged specifically for these men. In answer to this a group of Alabama Confederate Veterans offered to let these men share their own tents with them.
The grave of Bill Yopp, Co. H 14th GA Infantry Regiment. |
One such case are the men of the Atlanta Confederate Soldier's Home buried with other Confederate soldiers and veterans at the Confederate Cemetery in Marietta, Georgia. Among these men is the grave of a Black Confederate Veteran named Bill Yopp, who served as a drummer in Company H, 14th Georgia Infantry Regiment. Yopp was a former slave and Confederate veteran who lived in his old age at the Soldier's Home along with other veterans, including his former master, Captain Thomas Yopp.
While the CS government as a body might not have officially recognized these men as soldiers, the men who served with them certainly counted them as one of their own; both as a soldier, and later on as a veteran.
If the United Confederate Veterans themselves -- the men who actually fought and lived beyond the war -- recognized those Southern men of color as soldiers and veterans, then their opinion counts far more than a piece of political legislation.
It is the men who wore the hallowed grey and butternut of the South who decided that these men were one of them. They all served in the same units, suffered the same terror of battlefield bullets, the same horrors of the field hospitals, the inglorious deaths of disease, the indignities of the prisoner of war camps, and the final surrender and defeat together. They lived together, they fought together, some died and were buried together on the field, and more importantly many survived together.
It was the United Confederate Veterans themselves who accepted these Confederates of Color as fellow veterans at reunions, who lobbied to get these men pensions for their service, and who were later buried them alongside their fellow soldiers with all military honors.
In the end, it is the opinion of those veterans who witnessed the horrors of war on the battlefield together that hold the most weight in the final review. Not a piece of paper, not a government order, and most certainly not some agenda-driven historian. Their service and those of the men they fought with was paid for in blood that ran the same color no matter what color the skin that held it in; and that noble Southern blood is much thicker than ink folks.
Conclusions & Denier Fears
Now that the Denier's flimsy house of cards has been completely toppled, this leads us to the biggest question in this argument: Why do Black Confederate Deniers fear the memory of the Black Confederate Veteran so?
As it has been demonstrated their service does nothing to seriously counter any ideas about the leading causes of the War Between the States. It does not diminish the service of Union men of color and their service. Nor does it really paint a picture of some mythical "rainbow confederacy" in any significant way.
So what is the real motive of Black Confederate Denial historical negationism?
Well folks, those words can be best summed up by once again quoting another notorious Denier (whom I also won't name here):
"You may be able to find stories of loyal black soldiers on thousands of websites today and the narrative may have penetrated into museums, textbooks, and other professional institutions at different points over the past few decades, but ultimately it proved to be unsuccessful in responding to the kinds of concerns expressed by the SCV.
The monuments and flags have come down and will likely continue to do so for the foreseeable future. No number of mythical black Confederate soldiers will ever be able to return them to their places of glory."
And there you have it folks.
For the Black Confederate Denier this argument has never truly been about honoring the Black Union soldier, or about profiles in African-American courage, or about telling the truth of history. The real motive of the Denier and those who share the mentality of thee people have far less to do with preserving the memories of those living in the past, but rather attacking people who don't share their views living today. In particular those of us who are proud and unapologetic in our love and respect for those Confederate veterans we are descended from.
But why the mind-numbing hatred?
Often times it is Southerners who are accused of "re-fighting the war" when defending the honor of the Confederate citizen soldier.
Well, from over a decade of really observing these folks in action, I can only conclude that it comes from fear of those who express pride in Confederate ancestry, mixed in with a less-than-healthy dose of far-Leftist racial identity politics and their own apparent inability to accept history as just history.
These people see themselves largely as the heir apparent of the Union cause, or rather their interpretation of the Righteous Cause, fighting what they wrongly perceive as a vast political right wing "neo-Confederate" conspiracy -- a bunch of modern day Don Quixote-white knight types tilting at windmills they build up as menacing dragons.
For the Denier it really is all about continuing to fight (and trying to re-win) a war that most of us rational, sane people know ended in 1865. On a personal level, this writer has seen far greater levels of irrationality from those who deny the existence of Black Confederate Veterans than I have ever seen from some Confederate heritage defender who plays to the hilt the part of "unreconstructed Reb" by a long-shot.
The Denier quote above alleges that honoring the service of the Black Confederate Veteran is only about defending Confederate symbols and their place in public discourse -- and ultimately that is why the narrative of the Deniers will fail in the long run.
The defense of the Black Confederate Veteran is about the shared heritage all proud Confederate descendants respect. Its about the Southern blood that binds us as Dixie's brothers and sisters. To defend one is to defend the honor of every Confederate soldier and their descendant, as well as their ancestors before them and those who will come after us.
Whatever modern historian or political activist (in the case of Deniers, a bit of both) want to make of the service of these men, then they are free to debate those facts. What they should not be permitted to do is diminish the humanity of those men, denigrate their service, their loyalty, or their very humanity to advance their own abhorrent, morally decadent political, or social agendas.
This writer, for one, has made it a point to stand up for these veterans of color, and for every other Confederate veteran -- soldier or serviceman respectively -- and their proud descendants, my brothers and sisters of Dixie, against those who would dishonor their memories, and I will continue to do so for as long as memory and common sense prevail.
God Bless Y'all!
Confederate descendants posing in front of the battle flag of the 14th Georgia Infantry, CSA. |
A special thank you to all those who helped contribute to the creation of this article, especially Miss Teresa Roane of Richmond, Virginia, retired former archivists at the Museum of the Confederacy. Your help was greatly appreciated. It was a group effort and quiet honestly, I couldn't have done it without your help. Thank you everyone!
Miss Teresa Roane. |
This writer would also like to offer a personal thanks to Miss Sarah Pioggia of Hampden, Massachusetts, U.S.A. for pointing out the accidental misspelling of Confederate Veteran Alex Sarter of Union County, South Carolina, and helping to ensure the information accuracy of this article. God bless you, ma'am!
Praise for this article!
On May 10th, 2019, the website Civil War Talk featured this article, which enjoyed a very interesting back and forth debate which can be read HERE. My personal thanks to those on both sides of the argument who took the time to read and review my article, as well as the moderators of the site for keeping the discourse civil.
"Your article in Southern Fried Common Sense (& Stuff) is a very interesting read. Surprising find, well researched history."
~ Tony Horwitz, Pulitzer Prize winning journalist and author of "Confederates In The Attic" (1998). (05-03-19)
Writer's note: Mr. Horwitz sadly passed away on May 27th of this year at the age of 60, less than a month after sending me this short review. Thank you my friend. RIP.
59 comments:
Mr.Roden, Iam a big enough man to admit when I am wrong about someone, and I confess that I owe you a HUGE apology sir. When I clicked on to your link about Black Confederate soldiers I expected the usual half-baked arguments from the usual neo-confederate talking points. While you certainly did use some of them I also saw that you expressed a bit more neutrality than many hard-core Lost Causers might. You didn't try to portray black confederates as proof against slavery, or try to defend the Lost Cause. I've also gone back over some of our past blog posts and found you to be quite consistant on how you view these issues. You are not the usual angry neo-confederate type, even if you clearly have a bias in favor of the Confederacy and the soldiers. I wont say I agree on all of your points, but I am big enough to admit that you are more openmined than I was led to believe by others.
Jimmy
Good afternoon sir!
First of all you have no reason to offer me any apologies, though I appreciate them.
Secondly, you are correct in the fact that I don't hold to any so-called "neo-Confederate" agenda when it comes to honoring the Confederate dead and respecting his role as an American soldier and veteran. I care no more about the Confederate government as an entity than I do the Royal government of the American Colonies prior to 1775.
I also respect the Confederate soldier's good name as much as I hold the same for any American (U.S. or otherwise) Veteran.
Now I do confess I do hold a tiny-itty-bity-little bias in favor of Confederate Veterans largely due to family history and what I see as a full scale attack on their memory by people who hate this country of ours as it was founded. I defend them as I would defend any other American veteran, living or dead, being attacked by those same forces.
Really that is what this is largely about: soldiers not causes. I respect the Union soldier even if I didn't respect him for invading and destroying the South and later the western Indian nations. I can respect the British Loyalist, even if I cannot respect the idea of greater loyalty to a foreign country than to ones own home State. I can even respect the American men who served in the Lincoln Brigade in the Spanish Civil War even though I have little to no respect for socialism and communism they believed in (or for that matter the fascism they fought against).
For me this is about history, heritage, and honoring both in a balanced way. I strive to present history that way and encourage you, and anyone else reading this, to keep reading and reviewing.
Thank you again for your review, sir.
I'm a history teacher in Asheville, NC and one of my students recently did a report on black Confederates and the Cherokee Confederates of William Thomas's legion. He sited your blog and this article as one of his sources. My 5th period class really enjoyed it. They learned a good deal about how some people view the duties of a soldier, and how African-Americans served above and beyond the call even when they were not wanted sometimes. The student in question got an A for the assignment.
I like how you teach history sir. You write in plain words and don't try to talk down to, or preach to your readers. I also like how you sited the sources for your arguments with links, though many history papers number and site sources at the end of the story. If you were writing a paper for me, I'd probably knock it down to a B+ for that. Otherwise I really enjoyed reading your articles about these men.
Russel, thank you very much for your review and your words sir!
Reading that really brought a smile to my face. It's really awesome to know that my history writing work really reaches people -- even better knowing it is the next generation.
I also appreciate what you wrote about how I present history on this blog. As a simple small-town country writer and student of history, I write in terms the average reader can follow. A big part of that is the fact that I had to overcome literary dyslexia in my youth (came with my Autism, basically means that I used to be "word-blind") but moreover I don't feel the need to show off my intelligence with long words, or talk down to people like certain "historians" do. I use plain talk because I find it helps to connect better with folks.
Thank you again for your response and I'm glad to hear your students enjoyed hearing these stories. ~Carl
Excellent work! Thank you for defending these men sir!
Thank you in turn for your review. Defending recognized American veterans from defamation is both a duty and a pleasure for me.
Good evening from Australia, Mr. Roden.
Love your blog post. Lots of stuff there I didn't know. My great great grandfather fought for the south, a Canadian volunteer.
Outstanding work and well written. I like your writing style, including the way you present historical facts like you are speaking in front of a classroom or a microphone in front of an audience telling a story. Your Revolutionary War Southern Campaign series was simply marvelous as well. Have you ever considered doing a presentation on this topic or your Rev War series for classrooms or speaking engagements? Simply curious. - Drew Simpson, 10th grade history teacher
Great blog post!
Thank you for your post sir, its good go hear from other proud descendants from across the world. Our honored heritage and Dixie family truly is worldwide. Thank you again for your post and for your ancestor's service, my friend.
Thank you, FullMetal93!
Thank you very much for your review and your kind words.
When it comes to public speaking, I am really not very good at it for a number of reasons. For starters I have high-functioning autism (Aspergers) and my ability to speak publicly, while not too bad one-on-one, is hampered by the fact that I also get really nervous doing any sort of presentation in front of an audience. I used to stammer when I gave book reports in school. I fall over my words, and need to read them off a card and even then I get a little mixed up.
The written word is better for me in terms of communication -- and even then I had to overcome a mild form of dyslexia (word blindness) through years of practice.
I really appreciate that you liked my work, and I hope to have more interesting historical stuff coming up soon. Peace out! ~Carl
Two major criticisms and a quick FYI CW. You continue to use the disrespectful, anti-US PC terminology "African-American" in your writing. That is a grave and avoidable error because the term is also anti-Confederate in its nature. My Italian ancestors would have a well justified fit if I made the mistake of calling myself "Italian-American". (My red ancestors would be far more justifiably infuriated with the racist term "native-american".)
The wording rule of thumb for proper US respect is simple CW: Always put America first, in some form or other. Being a mutt of many breeds I am part America-Italian and part America-red aka America-FOAL (First Ones Ancestral Lineage). You are America-Confederate and America-Celtic.
So for Black folks America-African is both accurate and properly respectful, where even "American-African" is off the mark because adding in the 'n' to the 'America' suggests a form of governmental ownership. US-Black or US-African can also work.
Secondly, both mathematically and scientifically it is virtually impossible for the number of properly defined 'Confederate Black soldiers' to be 100,000 or less. It may be convenient as you've done here to restrict the definition in a way that artificially lowers the number for the sake of discussion but the truth of the actual numbers is another matter.
The FYI is for you to think and reason along Checker lines not Chess. Mine is still the only known proof of the little known idea that the phrase "all men are created equal" was derived by Jefferson from the game we now call Checkers, then called Draughts. Then and now the game pieces called 'men' and as everyone knows in Checkers all the men on board start out as equals.
So we'll leave it at that.
Thank you for your review sir!
The reason I use the terminology that I did is largely due to practicality.
For my part I do not see skin color as a part of "racial identity" since genetically people, for the most part, are not purely one thing or the other. Judging by skin color solely as an identity is full of pitfalls. Historically speaking even so-called "white people" are themselves descended from people of color in some aspects going back to the dawn of humanity.
A genetic test of my own ancestry found a large mix of various European ethnicity (Scots-Irish, Austrian) and about 3% Native American.
Since I don't label people based on their skin color in my everyday thinking, I am forced to go with the terms widely used by our current culture.
As to your second point, I made no claims that Confederates of Color (in this case Black Southerners) as soldiers come anywhere close to 100,000. For that matter I didn't specially claim that all mentioned are in fact soldiers either. The definition of "soldier" and the legal qualifications of same are the crux of the Denier's main argument. I simply argue that using one standard or the other alone as a basis of setting a historical standard is problematic at best.
As a simple country writer, I merely offered the facts and allow the reader their own interpretation of them -- while adding in my own two cents, of course. The definitions I offer are not "restrictive" in any way, they simply are what they are based on the research.
Finally, I'm more of a Poker player than checkers of chess.
Typical poker player response; trying to bluff your way around the obvious truth, lol. No surprise there, Poker being the game for honing skills of lies and deception. Maybe some day you might follow the lead of your fellow southerner Thomas Jefferson by seeking out a more honest hobby in your pursuit of spare time happiness? Checkers perhaps, or bowling?
Defending your usage of widely used, disrespectful terminology for practicality reasons is just plain silly, CW. Nobody forced you to go with the terms widely used by PC morons of our current culture, ya ditz. You chose to surrender to it and use the terms without any thought on your part involved. And so, those defending arguments of yours just got double-jumped right off the board.
FYI. Never refer to your 3% ancestry with that disrespectful, despicable "N A" term, there are far better options that are both truthful and educational. First Ones Ancestral Lineage or FOAL being one of those options.
I actually average a 210 at bowling. Never had a perfect game, at least not yet.
Donald R. Shaffer writes on Patrick Cleburne's proposal to arm black soldiers for the confederacy made on January 2, 1864: "The Irish-born Cleburne, who had arrived in America in the mid-1840s and never owned slaves, for all his love of the people of the South, obviously had never fully appreciated the fear, racism, and greed of white Southerners that underlay their commitment to the peculiar institution. Thinking in purely military and geo-political terms his proposal made a great deal of sense. But in the cultural, social, and political terms of the Confederacy it was anathema. His brother officers in the Army of Tennessee, out of their great respect for him as a successful military commander, heard him out on his proposal on the evening of January 2, 1864, before Joseph E. Johnston politely but firmly rejected it and refused to forward Cleburne’s proposal to Richmond. Cleburne for his part, calmly accepted the rejection and dropped the idea, but another Major General in the Army of Tennessee, William H.T. Walker, breaking the chain of command, forwarded on his own initiative Cleburne’s proposal to Jefferson Davis, who similarly rejected it, and counseled Walker and Johnston to keep the controversial document secret as it would cause great trouble if it became public.
It would not be until the last weeks of the Confederacy that a form of Cleburne’s idea would be revived as the desperate rebel leadership was finally ready to endanger the slave system to forestall total defeat. The Confederate Congress approved a plan to recruit black soldiers into their army in March 1865, and trade them freedom for their service (although it foresaw no general emancipation as Cleburne wanted) but it was too little too late, and no black units created under this law ever saw action before the final collapse of Confederate forces defending Richmond the following month. Patrick Cleburne himself did not live to see his idea of black Confederate soldiers finally accepted as he died at the Battle of Franklin in late November 1864.
In any case, if there is any historical significance to Cleburne’s proposal of January 2, 1864 to arm the slaves for the Confederacy, it is, first, to further confirm that the rebels, for all their denials, were fighting to keep slavery. While certainly soldiers like Patrick Cleburne were devoted to the idea of Confederate nationhood in its own right, the top rebel leadership could not countenance embracing emancipation merely to give their army a better chance at success in 1864. Because unlike Cleburne, they knew not only that many slaveholders would not give up their property voluntarily under any circumstances, but also that with a lifetime of oppression behind them ending slavery would likely not suddenly convert African Americans to the Confederate cause, and they feared if given arms would promptly turn them on white Southerners in an orgy of barbaric vengeance.
Second, if tens or even hundreds of thousands of African Americans fought for the Confederacy, as contemporary neo-Confederates have asserted, why did Major General Patrick Cleburne make his January 1864 proposal to recruit units that already supposedly existed? Why did his proposal fall flat with the commanding general of the Army of Tennessee and the Confederate political leadership in Richmond? Why was Cleburne’s idea resurrected in modified form in the dying days of the Confederacy as the Davis, Lee, and other rebel leaders tried to forestall the looming collapse of the Confederacy? Hence, while there is much evidence to debunk the legend of large-scale black service as Confederate soldiers, one of the most powerful pieces is Patrick R. Cleburne’s proposal in early 1864. Again, why propose what already supposedly existed, unless it really didn’t exist?"
Thank you for your question, and while ironically often sited on Denier websites, this one is by far one of the easier ones used by Black Confederate Deniers to counter.
As I have pointed out in my blog post, this blogger does not contend that the Confederacy was a model of racial utopia. There was no doubt that in the CSA African-Americans were held as second class status, and even free people of color were not legally citizens (nor were they legally in the US until after 1865 for that matter). Nor does this blogger contend otherwise.
The fact that African-Americans were not citizens did not prevent many of them from serving in American armed forces since the French and Indian War till the end of the War Between The States for a host of personal reasons.
Also this blogger does not contend that Black Southerners by and large served as Confederate soldiers. In each Confederate regiment there might be as many as a ten, or as little as just one or two black men to hundreds if not a thousand whites or other ethnicity in the ranks and never any more at any given time, a few cases notwithstanding. Not exactly a huge concern for the Confederate government, and usually not something largely reported at any case, except in personal accounts. Also consider that many of these Black Confederates were in fact free men of color and not slaves, although being a slave did not entirely mean that individual was incapable of making personal decisions in their own right, especially once their masters had been killed or wounded.
The reason the commander of the Army of Tennessee, Joseph E. Johnston, politely refused to forward the request by Cleburne had nothing to do with disagreement with the proposal itself, but rather how he knew it might be received. Johnston himself was not actually opposed to the idea generally speaking, but since he recently replaced one of Davis' friends (Braxton Bragg) as army commander and was not well liked by Davis, any recommendation by him would not have gone over well. By contrast when Walker forwarded it, he did so along with a rather unflattering opinion and his own spin on the proposal to Davis because of a rivalry between him and Cleburne (and subsequent jealousy over Clebure's praise by the Confederate Congress for stopping the Union advance at Ringgold Gap -- in short he did it because he wanted to damage Cleburne's reputation more than anything else.
Finally this argument also misses a key point in the idea of freedom for Confederate service: money. The CSA was essentially broke and had little gold in its coffers. What paper money was printed by 1864 was largely worthless. Asking slave owners to send their slaves (their property to be blunt) to the government while offering at best government bonds, or a promise of payment, would never have gone over well either. The Confederate government was all too aware of this fact and it was as much a concern as any ethical question of arming slaves into whole regiments.
Overall, Mr Shaffer's approach and arguments leave out far too many key points to be taken entirely on its own merit alone.
Once again thank you for your submission.
Hello from up North - Calgary, Alberta to be exact.
Great article. I especially love how you present your arguments, the way a lawyer presents a case. You present the opponents arguments, then provide the details shooting them down before they can be made. I would say that at best you offered the definition of reasonable doubt about black confederate denial rather than actually proving these men were in fact actual rebel soldiers. I do admit that your points about how other confederate veterans saw these men are very good ones. I also enjoyed the way you presented historical fact. Very well researched stuff. All in all a good read.
Robby Pilgrim
Thank you very much for your review, sir!
The article is ridiculous. First off it's mostly feelings, not facts and a lot on conjecture. Secondly, you haven't proven them to be mostly combat soldiers at all but like to gloss over the fact that almost all of them were used for labor and weren't willingly free volunteers. The Confederates used thousands of blacks in their army. There were few freed blacks in the South in comparison, and made up a tiny percentage of the Southern forces. Early on in the war there were some who enlisted, or attempted to enlist, feeling it was their duty to their state. But the Confederates often refused their service but would use massive amounts of slave labor to build forts, drive wagons, cook, and carry supplies. Those are your black soldiers, not the minority few who held arms. Using the tiny number that held arms as some kind of bid to rewrite the cause is part of the problem here. The few quotes that you use are just that too, a few. If black Confederate combat soldiers had been so common, as people like to claim, there would be more evidence of them. What we do have are a lot of first hand accounts of blacks in Confederate forces used as labor or servants.
Lets look at the American Battlefield Preservation Trust on the topic:
"This is not to say that no black man ever fired a gun for the Confederacy. To be specific, in the “Official Records of the War of the Rebellion,” a collection of military records from both sides which spans more than 50 volumes and more than 50,000 pages, there are a total of seven Union eyewitness reports of black Confederates. Three of these reports mention black men shooting at Union soldiers, one report mentions capturing a handful of armed black men along with some soldiers, and the other three reports mention seeing unarmed black laborers. There is no record of Union soldiers encountering an all-black line of battle or anything close to it."
Or as Smithsonian writes:
Enslaved workers constituted the backbone of the Confederate war effort. Although stories of these impressed workers and camp slaves have been erased from our popular memory of the war in favor of mythical accounts of black Confederate soldiers, their presence in the Confederate army constituted a visual reminder to every soldier —slaveowner and non-slaveowner alike—that their ultimate success in battle depended on the ownership of other human beings.
Anywhere between 6,000 and 10,000 enslaved people supported in various capacities Lee’s army in the summer of 1863. Many of them labored as cooks, butchers, blacksmiths and hospital attendants, and thousands of enslaved men accompanied Confederate officers as their camp slaves, or body servants. These men performed a wide range of roles for their owners, including cooking, cleaning, foraging and sending messages to families back home. Slave owners remained convinced that these men would remain fiercely loyal even in the face of opportunities to escape, but this conviction would be tested throughout the Gettysburg campaign.
First of all thank you for your review, Paul, and for your frank -- if quite erroneous -- assessment and presumptions of my article. In many ways you have proven my point about Black Confederate Denial and how it works. Bravo for that. Most of your assumptions and statements seem to suggest that you did not come here with an open mind; and your errors reflect more on your personal belief about what you think my point was and wrongful assumptions about who you think I am, and what you think my goals are.
Now let me tell you where you have it all wrong.
(1) You maintain that the article is full of "mostly feelings, not facts, and a lot of conjecture."
Really? So all of the links provided -- in full unedited context I might add! -- are "conjecture"? Really? LOL!
(2) I don't maintain that any vast majority of Black Confederates were in fact combat soldiers at all, and I certainly didn't gloss over the fact that many African-Americans were used for labor. I start to wonder if you read the same article.
(3) You acknowledge that there were free men of color in Southern ranks, bravo for that, though you seem to downplay their numbers.
(4) "Using the tiny number that held arms as some kind of bid to rewrite the cause is part of the problem here." Uh, yeah I made no such claim, nor attempted to rewrite anything. Quite the contrary in fact. But keep trying.
(5) "If black Confederate combat soldiers had been so common, as people like to claim, there would be more evidence of them." Not exactly true if we are talking about a few men in a regimental line of hundreds of men.
(6) The Civil War Battlefield Trust are a good bunch and I largely support the work they do, though they are made up of people with specific agendas that have little to do with history and more to do with modern politics. I can see where you get some of your arguments, though for the last part I make no claims that Black Confederates served as whole units (aside from one recorded and well documented instance).
(7) LOL That is not the official stance of the Smithsonian Institute. The lines you quote there come from an article posted in their magazine by one Mr. Kevin M. Levin, a notorious -- and heavily debunked -- Black Confederate Denier who spent half the article promoting his upcoming book, and using a great deal of conjecture. Mr. Levin has no official standing with the institute (he's actually a private school history teacher, not that there is anything wrong with that), nor does his opinion reflect the opinion of the Smithsonian Institute itself.
Well there you have it. I do thank you for taking the time to post here. I hope you will come back again. Peace out! ~Carl
Beautifully written, Mr. Roden! Thank you for telling the story of these men.
Honoring those who served in defense of home and family is a personal honor of mine, ma'am. I could do nothing less than to stand for their memory.
First of all I want to point out that I am neutral on the subject of Black Confederates. That being said I have to admit, you're very good at what you did here.
I'm a lawyer and what you've written is an excellent example of how a Defense counsel would take apart a Prosecutor's argument. One of the things a good lawyer does, no matter if it is a bench trial, or trial by jury, is limit the number of issue you have to dispute. Getting out in front of bad facts and addressing the weaknesses, or the issues that are optically bad for your case so you can focus on winning the arguments. You did just that by presenting your opponents arguments without trying to downplay them. You also showed honesty by not editing those facts, building trust with your readers.
As for your counterarguments, there I would have to conclude that at best you presented a great deal of reasonable doubt. Enough so that, if this were a trial, I'd say you would have won based on those criteria. Outstanding job!
Hello, Mr. Roden, my name is Brian. 22 years old and from Asheville, NC.
I wanted to tell you that I enjoyed your article. I read it on a post at Civil War Talk back in May and it really set off a firestorm of debate. Thank you for standing up to these forgotten soldiers and for exposing the deceptions of people who deny their service.
Okay the reason I am writing to you is a curious one.
Another contributor at CWT named Michael Schaffner recently posted a link to another page that expressed a rather mean-spirited character attack on you personally. Here is a copy of the link:
https://cwcrossroads.wordpress.com/2013/08/09/the-gift-that-keeps-on-giving-strikes-again/
I just wanted to get your take on that blog post. Also do you contribute to Civil War Talk yourself?
~SouthernFriedOtaku (my screen name/gamer handle)
Greetings & Salutations, SouthernFriedOtaku -- Love the screen name BTW!
Thank you for your review and especially for your defense of Black Confederate Veterans. I read your posts at Civil War Talk. Thank you for standing up for those men and defending their honor -- and by extension the honor of all American Veterans regardless of color or creed.
To answer your question no I don't have a account with CWT, not because I don't want one, but largely because I don't have time these days to stay online all the time -- hence why I only update this blog about four or five times a month. That might change in the future though.
As for what "Strawman" Schaffner posted, all I can do is laugh at the weak doxxing attempt. Worse because it is an old one, and it didn't work the first time around either. Hee hee.
Life's too short to focus on haters anyhow.
Once again thank you for your post and review, and for your kind words.
Incidentally, what sort of anime are you interested in, if you don't mind my asking?
paul you're and idiot. another useless liberal like author kevin levin.
Mr. Roden, I found your article very interesting. It was well thought out, researched, and presented. You showed the most pictures, articles, etc. that I ever seen on the topic. I also applaud your (restrained) replies to some of the commenters. I also have to wonder if some of them even read your article; some of their comments seem to suggest otherwise. I find the pictures and copies of articles from around the turn of the last century more convincing evidence than deniers with essentially nothing more to present than their own circular arguments.
History is replete with examples of soldiers fighting for something that is different than what the war might have been started for (or what the government leaders said the war was for). Of the (appx.) 800,000 southern men who fought in the Civil War, not only is it reasonable to think that there were some who were fighting for what they saw as an invasion of their homeland, but unreasonable to think that all of them were fighting for just one cause. To say otherwise is to claim to know the thoughts and hearts of 800,000 men that lived over 150 years before you.
I am amazed, although I guess by now I shouldn't be, how, even with such evidence, some people still deny this. Evidence such as the 1890 article from the Jackson, MS Clarion Ledger titled "The Monument" about John L.Harris, the page from the 1923 SCV reunion newsletter, The Stars and Bars, depicting a black man wearing the Southern Cross of Honor medal with the caption "All the heroes weren't white", which occurred at such a time relative to the ending of the war that there would be plenty of people still around to refute such articles if they were not true.
Regardless of what capacity they served or under what conditions they arrived to serve, I believe that it is indisputable that they did indeed serve. For that, they should be remembered and their memory not impugned.
thank you.
Mr. Roden, I have found this website to be very informative and well put together. I have utilized alot of it. I appreciate the time and effort it took for you to create it. Now more than ever when information is being suppressed it is important that resources like this website are available to people. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
In a speech at Rochester, NY, Union General Benjamin Butler gave the rebels credit for the first armed black men of the war. He said: “Where and when do you suppose was the first arming of negroes in the war? In February 1862, Thomas O. Moore, rebel Governor and commander-in-chief of rebel forces in Louisiana, organized two regiments of colored soldiers, officered by colored men, and drilled in the same field with white Confederate soldiers. These were the first negroes seen since Andrew Jackson organized two regiments of negroes for the defense of New Orleans. – excerpt from the Rutland Weekly Herald, November 8, 1866
Union soldier veteran, Miles O’Reilly, of the 47th NY, penned a widely published poem expressing contempt for “black loyalty” to the South. “Black rebs were worse than the white” he decried:
“Well, we fought – aye, for four years we fought,
Pouring out lavish treasure and life-
Did the black then arise as he ought,
Cleaving northward with torch and with knife?
All his masters were far from his track,
Under Johnson and Lee in the fight;
There was nothing to hold the black back
From assisting his champion, the white.
Did he aid us when bleeding we stood
To chase from him slavery’s dreams,
Or to Lee sent his clothing, and food,
Harness, powder, equipment and teams?
We all know that in one single State
A revolt would have ended the fight;
So no more of their ‘loyalty’ prate,
For the black rebs were worse than the white.”
– excerpt from the New York Herald, September 24, 1867
Thank you for your review and for your kind words sir.
I agree with every word, these men served and they deserve to be honored, not just as Confederate Veterans, but as American Veterans overall.
You are very welcome and thank you again for your response.
The accounts of black soldiers embraced by CSA apologists are seen by them as indisputable proof of black solders' existence. These accounts are almost always offered without any historical context, however, and what they fail to acknowledge is that confederates not only did not confirm the use of slaves as soldiers (beyond the presence of camp servants, cooks, musicians, and impressed slaves) but also often flatly denied their presence in the army. There were few people who had a better grasp of what was happening in the confederate army on the racial front than John B. Jones. Jones, who worked in the confederate war department throughout the war, wrote and read reams of correspondence every day, met with the secretary of war nearly every day, and frequently spoke to Jefferson Davis. In his diary entry for March 20, 1863, Jones denied reports in the Northern newspapers that the confederacy had recruited black soldiers: "This is utterly untrue. We have no armed slaves to fight for us, nor do we fear a service insurrection".
Source: Searching for Black Confederate Soldiers: The Civil War's Most Persistent Myth by Kevin M. Levin
Thank you for your post. Very informative.
At any rate this is one of the more easily disputed Denier Historical Negationist talking points, and I'm surprised its still being used -- but then again given the source I shouldn't be, LOL! It also shows how intellectually dishonest Deniers are, using at least part of the truth to weave their narratives.
Ironic thing about Mr. Jones is that he was a clerk and not an actual combat soldier, and rarely actually went to the front lines. Also putting Mr. Jones' words in proper context (ironic that the author of this particular piece failed to do so after lambasting so-called "CSA apologists" for the same thing) he was talking about rumors of the CSA creating regiments of Black Soldiers, which they were not doing at that time -- that much was true, nor has it ever been denied by those who defend the service of individual Confederates of Color.
Thank you for your post and allowing me the time to clarify this particular talking point.
Your article is excellent - as a true Liberal, I'm nauseated by neoliberals who in their usual hypocrisy, biased fact-denying, and their own lack of education in historical reality, would deny your evidence and prefer to fantasize that no Blacks fought for the South. Were it not for photos showing it, many neolibs would deny any Blacks would have been involved in the mob that attacked the US Capitol in January 2021. May be some are referring to those instances as, the persons being forced or camp followers.
Moreover, you could add the fact that many hundreds of free Blacks in the South also owned slaves. Some who were more prevalent, owned dozens. Among these unique but not uncommon wealthy Black slave owners, were those who saw their riches in jeopardy should the North win a war against the South. You're of course aware of the incident of Jefferson's muted shock at the sight of a Black Confederate regiment turned out in parade to greet him on behalf of their sponsors - wealthy Free Blacks that formed the unit. Not surprisingly, the unit was forced to disband not long after.
That being said, and referring to your 'other' talking points on what the opposing sides stood for and did in their causes - Surely you are aware of the South did not restore the Florida lands of several Indian nations - such as the Seminoles which were earlier invaded in the cause of maintaining slavery. You express disgust for the Northern troops rampaging into the South, but this in the same time that the Southern leaders used slavery when other so-called civilized yet racist nations had long abolished it. At the same time, very filthy rich Southern leaders did nothing for dirt-poor whites which existed.
Absolutely wonderful article. You really like to rile up those folks on facebook, don't you? LMAO!
No not really. I mean I don't set out to be an internet troll. Its just that those folks tend to get riled up so easily and get triggered over even the smallest disagreement. SMH.
Thanks for your messages though, sir.
Okay not the propaganda I was expecting, I'll admit that much. Thanks you for sending the link.
Worried_Amphibian_54
"It has to do with recognizing American veterans (and yes, Confederate soldiers ARE American veterans) "
No. They were rebels, who killed hundreds of thousands of American Veterans.
“While federal law authorizes some benefits for former Confederates, such as the marking of unmarked graves of Confederate service members outside VA national cemeteries, this does not confer U.S. Veteran status or other VA benefits to those affected”
-Les' A. Melnyk, chief of public affairs and outreach, Department of Veterans Affairs
I get it. Neo-Confederate and white supremacist groups would love to try and rewrite history to make the slavers rebellion seem less offensive today. Luckily we wrote our history down.
IF you want to discuss black confederates we can look at the two groups formed in Richmond after the Confederate Congress allowed black people to serve in the final month before Richmond fell. No need to promote slaves to private's 150 years later. We know they served under Majors Pegram and Turner, we know where they trained. We know they were due to take part in a parade, but couldn't as they had no weapons or uniforms. We know Lee in his final days was writing Richmond on what to call those first black soldiers should they actually show up (they didn't). We can read the articles from papers in Richmond of how they would sign up, grab food or clothing and abandon the army. We know not one served in any battle. We know when those two majors made it to Appomattox NOT ONE black soldier remained with them. Even in the final days, there is a wealth of information, names, who they served under, where they were. Not some rewriting of camp slaves and servants who showed up on exactly zero of the 50,000 plus military records of the Confederacy except when noting laborers and slaves.
But you got caught trying to pass along that black slaves are "veterans". Nope. They applied for slave pensions. NOT ONE black person ever received a Confederate soldier pension from those states. You got caught in a lie honey.
Yes I get it. White supremacist groups with WWII and the Civil War have tried in recent year to show that Jewish and black labor mean that the 3rd reich are both more "redeemed" for the 3rd reich and slavers rebellion. We get that.
Now do I think you are gullible enough to actually believe that nonsense. No, I think your stance behind those claims is not based on you being an idiot, but sadly another ulterior motive which of course in 2023, is much harder to publicly say out loud.
As for black soldiers in the Revolutionary war. Sure. We know that 100 Americans enlisted for example under Col Christopher Greene between February and May 1778. We know that 44 more would enlist after June that year. We know that 144 African Americans were part of the 1st Rhode Island. Because we wrote our history down. No need for some 4chan edited picture. No need to lie bud.
That's why you have to promote that garbage there that is clearly not true. Because no Confederate ever references having black soldiers under his command or in his unit (outside of those two . Even beyond the Official Records, there is no known letter, diary entry, or any other primary source in which a Confederate mentions serving with black soldiers.
Greetings & Salutations! Thank you for your review.
Well now this is quite the little tirade you have going on there. Allow me to address each of your points individually.
"'It has to do with recognizing American veterans (and yes, Confederate soldiers ARE American veterans)' No. They were rebels, who killed hundreds of thousands of American Veterans."
Yeah, there a couple of really bit problems with that opening rant right away that needs clarification. It’s probably just a grammatical error on your part, but let me offer some clarification.
Those “rebels” (Americans) did not kill American VETERANS, they killed Union (American) SOLDIERS.
A “veteran” and a “soldier” hold two distinctly different definitions, one current and one past-tense:
SOLDIER – noun 1. A person who SERVES in an army; a person ENGAGED in military service. 2. an enlisted man or woman, as distinguished from a commissioned officer, the soldiers' mess and the officers' mess.
VETERAN – noun. 1. A FORMER member of the armed forces. 2. An old soldier of long service.
(Source: Merriam-Webster Dictionary)
I would also point out, as a caveat, that in every historical book I own and can find in my local library and book store (and I assure everywhere else) that, under the list of casualties and war dead of the War Between the States (American Civil War) that the overall total of those hundreds of thousands of AMERICANS killed includes BOTH the Union and Confederate soldiers altogether. Not 350,000 Federals and 300,000 “rebels” (sic) – and that number is recently believed to be much higher on both sides – but Americans all.
“While federal law authorizes some benefits for former Confederates, such as the marking of unmarked graves of Confederate service members outside VA national cemeteries, this does not confer U.S. Veteran status or other VA benefits to those affected”
-Les' A. Melnyk, chief of public affairs and outreach, Department of Veterans Affairs
I would agree. Confederate soldiers are not actually United States Military Veterans (aside from maybe those former Confederate veterans who later served in the US military in other wars after 1865).
That being said, Confederate soldiers are still indeed American veterans, though not U.S. Veterans.
Now, I’m again giving you the benefit of the doubt here and assuming you are conflating U.S. and American veteran in a provincial sense, meaning that “American” to you means simply U.S. citizen. And this is where I think many people get mixed up – including, I might add, many Confederate heritage supporters.
An American veteran, as opposed to simply a U.S. Military veteran, is an American-born person who served in defense of his or her nation, or cause in war. This would include not only U.S. Veterans themselves, but also: British Loyalists in the American Revolutionary War, Confederate soldiers, Texas-born Mexicans who served in the Mexican Army during the Texas War of Independence, the warriors of every Native American tribe who served in defense of their native ancestral lands, and Americans who served in foreign wars such as those volunteers who fought for the Lincoln Brigade in the Spanish Civil War.
"I get it. Neo-Confederate and white supremacist groups would love to try and rewrite history to make the slavers rebellion seem less offensive today. Luckily we wrote our history down."
Do you really? That remains to be seen.
As for the rest of what you stated, you’ll find that I’m neither of those things; nor am I going to make a case for either war, or to defend the causes of wars. All that matters to me in this case is the memory of those who served.
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"But you got caught trying to pass along that black slaves are "veterans". Nope. They applied for slave pensions. NOT ONE black person ever received a Confederate soldier pension from those states. You got caught in a lie honey."
There is plenty of evidence that Black Southern Loyalists did in fact serve, and has been presented in the article above. That fact that you failed to comprehend what you read, or otherwise ignored it entirely, speaks volumes about your ability to move past your obvious biases.
But let's move on, shall we?
"Yes I get it. White supremacist groups with WWII and the Civil War have tried in recent year to show that Jewish and black labor mean that the 3rd reich are both more "redeemed" for the 3rd reich and slavers rebellion. We get that."
LOL yeah, I really DON’T think you get it at all, my friend. Repetition of that statement only seem to make you sound a little bit desperate.
Normally, I would ignore any mentions of Godwin’s Law and dismiss someone who has to resort to such a cheap way to make an obscenely ignorant comparison; but this one I’ll indulge if only to make a point, and an example.
The difference is that the 3rd Reich (which by the way you misspelled, not to be a grammar Nazi—pun intended, LOL) was utilized slave labor as a means of carrying out the Final Solution, while the CSA only exploited the labor of African-American slaves (wrongly I might add) and were not out to systematically exterminate, or slaughter them wholesale.
Again, I make no attempt to try and “redeem” either the Confederate cause, or promote the concept of war…and I defy you to point out exactly where I’ve done so.
"Now do I think you are gullible enough to actually believe that nonsense. No, I think your stance behind those claims is not based on you being an idiot, but sadly another ulterior motive which of course in 2023, is much harder to publicly say out loud."
Um, my article was written and published in 2019. Also you might not want to date your statements like that. In a month from now, your argument will be soooo last year, LOL!
As for what I’ve written, I believed it then and I stand by it now in current year: Black Southern men who served with the Confederate military are American veterans and their memories deserve respect, as do their proud descendants. Period.
"As for black soldiers in the Revolutionary war. Sure. We know that 100 Americans enlisted for example under Col Christopher Greene between February and May 1778. We know that 44 more would enlist after June that year. We know that 144 African Americans were part of the 1st Rhode Island. Because we wrote our history down. No need for some 4chan edited picture. No need to lie bud."
Bravo! Well done…..except, you kinda left out a good bit of that.
For starters, you failed to mention that there were African-Americans who served throughout the Continental Army in various Patriot militia forces.
Also, while you mentioned the 1st Rhode Island, you failed to mention the hundred who served in Lord Dunmore’s Ethiopian Regiment, or for that matter the hundreds of former American slaves who served in the British and Hessian military during the American Revolutionary War – of which there were a far greater number than served in the Continental Army.
But, oh right, “we wrote our history down” didn’t we? LOL!
"That's why you have to promote that garbage there that is clearly not true. Because no Confederate ever references having black soldiers under his command or in his unit (outside of those two. Even beyond the Official Records, there is no known letter, diary entry, or any other primary source in which a Confederate mentions serving with black soldiers."
I’ve already demonstrated in my critically acclaimed article above that isn’t true, but you can go on whistling past the graveyard if you want to, Mr. Denier. Good talk though.
Thank you for your review and have a wonderful Dixie Day, ya hear!
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Sir, I find myself curious about several points in your article that seem to contradict themselves. Perhaps you could offer some clarity here?
You mention in the first of your criteria above for what constitutes a Black Confederate as:
"(1) Any black male, slave or freeman, who served in the Confederate military in any service capacity (cook, musician, teamster, body servant, or other such service job) who, of his own free will and without coercion, fought in defense of an individual Confederate soldier, a Confederate unit, or acted in defiance against the Union military."
However, later in your article, you site a source for the numbers of alleged Black Confederates (5,000) from a historian that mentions many of these men were themselves coerced into Confederate service...meaning not of their own free will.
Finally, in mentioning those numbers, how do you come to determine your own numbers and how many of them were in fact there of their own free will, or loyal to the Confederate cause.
Please answer at your own convenience. Thank you.
Greetings & Salutations, thank you for your review and questions.
My apologies for not responding sooner, but the Holiday Season is a bit of a busy time for me.
Now for the clarity you asked for.
The source in my article - which I presume you refer to Professor Schaffer's article -- suggesting coercion on the part of Black Confederates serving is only partly correct. As I stated in the article, not every African-American serving in the Confederate military was a volunteer (certainly not in the case of enslaved persons as opposed to Free Men of Color who could and did volunteer). In fact many of these men who were enslaved usually left the military when the master was killed, or could no longer serve. Others did desert when they had the opportunity, even joining the Union army. Yet others who were slaves did remain with their former master's Confederate units and preformed duties comparable to that of a private soldier of their own accord. Free Men of Color who voluntarily served in support roles in the Confederate military largely remained for as long as they were able to.
Most individual Black Confederate loyalty has far less to do with the Confederate cause of independence in and of itself in, and had more to do with loyalty, or a sense of esprit-de-corps, to another individual, or group of Confederate soldiers and veterans they served with.
I would also like to add as a caveat that, by 1863, most soldiers on both sides in the WBTS were fighting less our of specific loyalty to a cause, or country; and more because they were drafted, or paid bounties for enlisting in what was becoming an ever-unpopular and ugly war by that point. How one defines "loyalty" at that point varies from person to person.
I hope that I was able to provide the answers you sought, again sorry for the delay in responding. Again thank you for your post and have a Merry Christmas, and Happy New Year.
some interesting stuff, but you have at least one glaring error--if not an outright act of deceit (more on that soon). You cite the Tennessee militia law from June 28, 1861. You give a link to the law, and you quote the law--but the passage you quote specifically leaves out a paragraph that challenges your assertion that Tennessee authorized the recruitment of free persons of color as soldiers. he's what you claimed the law said;
Sec. 1. Be it enacted by the General Assembly of the State of Tennessee, That from and after the passage of this act the Governor shall be, and he is hereby, authorized, at his discretion, to receive into the military service of the State all male free persons of color between the ages of fifteen and fifty, or such numbers as may be necessary, who may be sound in mind and body, and capable of actual service.
2. That such free persons of color shall receive, each, eight dollars per month, as pay, and such persons shall be entitled to draw, each, one ration per day, and shall be entitled to a yearly allowance each for clothing.
the problem is that you left out the actual Sect.2 which said this: (this is from the source you cite):
Sect. 2 Be it further enacted, that all such free persons of color shall be required to do all such menial services for the relief of the volunteers as is incident to camp life, and necessary to the efficiency of the service, and of which they are capable of performing.
Sect. 3 That such free persons of color shall receive, each, eight dollars per month, as pay, and such persons shall be entitled to draw, each, one ration per day, and shall be entitled to a yearly allowance each for clothing.
So you completely cut out the part of the law that shows that Tennessee was not recruiting free blacks as soldiers, but as menial laborers who would serve the need of the white soldiers--in other words, what the "deniers" say.
I know pretty much nothing about you, and it's just barely possible that this was an error--e.g., you copied and pasted from somebody else and never bothered to read the actual primary source. But if you really do care about truth and history, that should be corrected. Thanks, all the best.
Oh, and two more things about the law you cite. 1. it is called "An Act for the Relief of Volunteers." i.e., even in the name, it is not a law to recruit black soldiers, but to recruit black menial laborers to relieve the burden of actual soldiers. 2. If you continue reading the law (sect. 7) if an insufficient number of free persons of color fail to "tender their services," the governor is empowered to impress them into service. So again, not really particularly good evidence either for the willingness of Confederate governments to recruit black soldiers, nor for Southern blacks' enthusiasm for the Confederate cause. All the best, David
Greetings David.
First of all, allow me to thank you for your post and for point out the error in my humble article on the subject of the Defense of Black Confederate Veterans. Its personally gratifying to me to know that people continue to read my article on the subject.
I do note a small tinge of....hostility?....in your assessment of the error, particularly in suggesting "outright act of deceit" at the beginning of your comments. However, it should be obvious that, if there were some form of deception on my part, I would likely not have posted a link to the quotes themselves that anyone reading would clearly check for themselves.
As for the error itself, I attribute it to personal error on my part when typing the article (and yes I do in fact type all my work -- no copy-n-paste history here!) and from the fact that I copied the quotes from another site rather than the original. The original site was also a list of the same acts from Tennessee, abet a slightly more abridged one that has long since been deleted and replaced by a more official site for my article.
I have since corrected the error, although I did type it verbatim from the site itself rather than what you sent since you also apparently skipped a few phrases in your response -- not sure the source you used, but clearly not the official site itself. Seems we're both in error here, eh?
As for your assertion that the State of Tennessee only recruited free men of color as menial laborers who would "serve the need of the white soldiers" I have to disagree with you on that one.
Reading the section, it states:
Sec. 2. Be it further enacted, That all such free persons of color shall be required to so all such menial service for the relief of the volunteers as is incident to camp life, and necessary to the efficiency of the service, as of which they are capable of performing.
If you are well studied on the camp life of the common soldier of the War Between The States (including those on both sides) then you are aware that every private soldier and service person was required to do numerous menial tasks daily, including all the dirty jobs. There were no lazy people in Civil War units, at least none that lasted very long anyhow.
My reading of the law in that context simply affirms what these people were required to do -- and be paid for I might remind you.
Also as for your assertion that Tennessee was not recruiting free men of color as soldiers, I don't recall making the specific claim that they did. I merely pointed out that they were formally enlisted into their various units.
I hope that I have helped clarify things for you, sir. Once again thank you for your review. Hopefully I'll hear more from you in the future in other articles on this site.
Oh, one more thing, since you did help to ensure that the information in the article is more accurate -- and by extension helped with the honorable defense of the memory of these Confederate veterans and their service; I will also be happy to note your contribution and include your name in the article -- although I am going to need something more than just a first name for that. If you choose not to include one in future comments, then that's okay as well.
Again thanks for your review and have a wonderful day, David. ~Carl
Hello again, David. Sorry I almost didn't see your little addition to your previous post.
I had to read this one a couple times before I could make sense of your last line:
"So again, not really particularly good evidence either for the willingness of Confederate governments to recruit black soldiers, nor for Southern blacks' enthusiasm for the Confederate cause."
I do believe you are operating on a somewhat faulty premise when judging my article and the intentions of it. It seems to imply (and correct me if I'm in error here) that I am making a case for defending the Confederate cause by pointing out the fact that men of color served in the Confederate military, sometimes of their own free will.
The point of the article is not to defend the causes of war, nor to justify said wars. I am on record as being personally anti-war and any such attempt at promoting war beyond condemning its destruction and cruelty to our fellow man is not my purpose in pointing out historical facts on this site. Nor will you find any such motive in any historical article I've posted on the subject of this, or any other American conflict.
While I am anti-war, I am pro-veteran -- in this case American veterans of the War Between The States, more specifically Confederate veterans. I wrote this article in response to what I have felt to be the deliberate whitewashing of the service of these specific African-American veterans by certain people of low character (aka the Deniers I previously mentioned).
Again thank you for your post and I hope this helps to clarify my position on the subject. ~Carl R.
As a veteran, glad that you're pro-me. That said, there is a fundamental difference between a soldier and what these men were being required to do. I was a US army soldier. There were numerous functions performed on post by people who were not soldiers--e.g., in basic training, we didn't have army cooks, we had contractors. They were paid by the US Army. They worked on a military post. They served the needs of the soldiers. But they were not soldiers. If one might borrow from the language of the Tennessee law, they were were there for "The Relief of the Volunteers." The volunteers in question were the soldiers; the menial laborers drawn from the free black population most definitely were not; getting paid for the labor didn't make them soldiers any more than getting paid by the US Army made the civilian contractors on post soldiers.
As a grunt, I had to do lots of menial labor--but there were also tasks that I paid other people to do--like press my BDUs. And again, the laundry people did a great job--but they weren't soldiers, any more than blacks--free or otherwise--recruited by this law would have been.
Now, you wrote the following: Also as for your assertion that Tennessee was not recruiting free men of color as soldiers, I don't recall making the specific claim that they did. I merely pointed out that they were formally enlisted into their various units.
So here's the problem with that--you were, in fact, pretty specific.
1. the whole discussion takes place in a section entitled: "Black Confederate Soldiers?"
So you say that you are not a supporter of the Confederate Cause. If I were to write a blog post entitled "Supporters of the Confederate Cause?" and include a discussion of you and your blog with no caveat, what conclusion might a reader draw about my intentions? Quite reasonable to assume I'm calling you a support of the Confederate cause. So if you are going to include a discussion about black men allegedly serving in the Tennessee militia in a section about Black Confederate soldiers, you do seem to be making a claim.
2. Right before that discussion, you wrote the following:
Some individual Confederate States permitted free blacks to formally enlist in their state militias.
One of the first to do so was the State of Tennessee which passed a law on Friday, June 28, 1861 authorizing the recruitment of state militia units composed of free persons of color between the ages of 15 and 50.
So you want to say you aren't making an assertion that they were being recruited as soldiers, but you do say they are being allowed to "formally enlist in the state militias" and 'the recruitment of state militia units."
And, of course, before my correction, you had left out some of the most important elements of the law, so that anybody reading it would draw the conclusion that the state of Tennessee was recruiting units of black men for its militia (and again, the section was "Black Confederate Soldiers?")
3. You make an assertion here that Tennessee was making "militia units composed of free men of color." Nowhere in the law that I could see does it refer to establish units of free men of color; it seems to be simply recruiting them to assign them to menial labor for actual soldiers, who were white. If you see otherwise, happy to consider it.
It would be, I think, considerably more intellectually honest to make a section that discusses the complicated nature of what you're trying to do--for example, rather than presenting this as an effort to recruit black militiamen, present it for what it is--an effort to recruit menial laborers who will alleviate the drudgery of the actual militiamen--include the name of the law--and ask the question for your readers "How should these men be considered?" I.E., ask your reader questions for which there might not be an easy answer, rather than offer the easy answer.
my comment was so long I had to break it up--sorry, I ended abruptly and uncordially.
You seem to say now that they should not be considered soldiers--but of course, you make the opposite point earlier
as you wrote:
Can you imagine anything more hurtful and demeaning than having some triggered academic with a chip of their shoulder saying to someone that their ancestor was "just a ditch digger" and not a soldier? That they did not deserve the dignity of being remembered as anything more than a "slave" regardless if the charge is true?
This law was not designed to recruit soldiers; it was designed to recruit ditch-diggers. Now, if you consider those ditch diggers to be soldiers, so be it. But don't then claim that somebody is putting words in your mouth for alleging that you do so.
Now, speaking not as a triggered academic, but as a former infantrymen, I don't consider such people to be soldiers. I don't consider civilian contractors to be soldiers now, and I certainly don't consider southern blacks who not considered soldiers by the confederate army or state militias to have been soldiers. Not to say there might not have been some rare exceptions, but armies have always had camp followers and many armies have had slaves performing labor for them. Not the same as being a soldier. And there's something pretty ridiculous about you speaking on behalf of African-Americans in defense of service on behalf of the Confederate military. I've never met an African-American who expressed shame that their ancestors were slaves. Try talking to some outside of neo-confederate circles, and you'd find that most of them would probably find more dignity in their slave ancestors' surviving and trying to hold their families together--which might have also necessitated serving the confederacy--than in service on behalf of the CSA.
As for any errors I might have had, I'd say that it's certainly possible, but
1. I'm a guy posting a comment on a blog.
2. more importantly, my omissions or errors, whatever they were, we not ones that fundamentally changed the meaning of what I said. I.E., I might have left out some words; I didn't leave out the one passage that completely changed the meaning of the quote.
As for my tone or hostility, it is not more hostile, let's say than the tone you offer regarding so called "Deniers" (see above comment from you about "triggered academics.") Now, I'm not a fan of triggered academics, but even moreso, I despise efforts to praise the Confederacy. As a veteran, I despise the leaders of the Confederacy who betrayed their oaths to the constitution and made war on the United States--the constitutional definition of treason. As an American, I despise men who made war on my country, and for a cause that betrayed the promise of the Declaration of Independence. As a human, I despise men who fought a war--as per the cornerstone address--for the perpetuation of slavery and the principle of white supremacy. And as a history teacher, I despise the historical denial that is perpetuated on a regular basis to whitewash their actions.
You say you're not trying to do that, but you spend a lot of time talking about how slaves rose to the defense of the Southland and very little or no space talking about the complicated reasons why Southern blacks might serve Confederate interests. So a slave is loyal to his master on the battlefield? Some of that is probably going to be sincere personal warmth--but what about slaves whose families were left behind? What about those afraid that if they fled to the Union, their families would suffer, their "beloved" masters selling their children or wives away from their homes? Or free blacks desperate to show their loyalty to a society where their status was always endangered?
So like I said, I'm a history teacher, and you're a young guy trying to write some history. Here's my sincere and well-intentioned advice--worry less about trying to own "Deniers," and worry more about objectivity. If you handed this to me as a paper, I'd say a lot of things, but one thing most definitely is check your own biases, ditch your own claims to protecting the memory of Southern blacks, esp. when the vast majority of black Americans would not sympathize, and at least include a section where you discuss reasons why blacks might have performed their service that go beyond what is, let's face it, a form of Confederate Revisionism.
Oy, and now I've worked on my summer vacation. But I won't hold that against you, that's my own craziness. All the best.
David
oh, and one more thing--to understand this more fully, you might want to expand your reading beyond the Civil War. During WWI, the imperial powers made use of imperial subjects as soldiers. But they also recruited vast numbers of imperial subjects for labor projects to free up actual soldiers. They got paid, they got fed, just like camp servants and menial laborers in the the confederate camps. Nobody mistook them for soldiers (ditch-diggers are not Gurkhas), and nobody today would assume that their service proved their love and devotion to their empires. Some certainly had some pride and identity, but a lot of them did it for the reason people do most jobs--they got paid. Occam's Razor--why did free blacks work for the confederacy? They got paid, they got impressed, they were afraid of the consequences of they didn't--there are a whole lot of pretty reasonable answers to consider before getting to "they wanted to resist northern invaders," or whatever.
all the best,
David
Oh, also, wanted to make clear that whatever my feelings about Confederate revisionism and the Lost Cause, I was stationed in the South and have nothing but good things to say about the South and Southerners (other than their choice in Civil War heroes).
Greetings again David.
Sorry I haven't checked my messages in a couple days, and wow you sent quite the manifesto to respond to, LOL! It might take a bit for me to go point-by-point, but bear with me here.
First of all, thank you for your service. I too served in our nation's armed forces: US Navy, though only for a short time (medically discharged) I have the greatest respect for those who choose the life.
Now your points and my counterpoints.
(So here's the problem with that--you were, in fact, pretty specific.
1. the whole discussion takes place in a section entitled: "Black Confederate Soldiers?")
Yes indeed: soldiers with a question mark at the end.
(So you say that you are not a supporter of the Confederate Cause.)
Dude, asking me that is the intellectual equivalent of asking me which side of the War of the Roses I support -- I confess I really don’t know how to seriously respond to that in any academic sense as a man living in the 21st century.
(If I were to write a blog post entitled "Supporters of the Confederate Cause?" and include a discussion of you and your blog with no caveat, what conclusion might a reader draw about my intentions?)
Well if you did I would hope you’d get my permission first. While I support the free exchange of ideas, if you’re going to use my name in some academic paper, or reddit post, I would appreciate the heads up.
(So if you are going to include a discussion about black men allegedly serving in the Tennessee militia in a section about Black Confederate soldiers, you do seem to be making a claim.)
Again you overlook the question mark in the title of the section, but I digress.
(2. Right before that discussion, you wrote the following:
Some individual Confederate States permitted free blacks to formally enlist in their state militias.)
A fact that is historically accurate and can easily be proven by a review of muster rolls of Confederate units from both State and National Archives.
(3. You make an assertion here that Tennessee was making "militia units composed of free men of color." Nowhere in the law that I could see does it refer to establish units of free men of color; it seems to be simply recruiting them to assign them to menial labor for actual soldiers, who were white.)
Did I say "units of free men of color"? I think you might wish to go back over that one. I said that they were recruited into existing militia units, not specifically as separate units. These men were not segregated.
As for your final assertion that "actual soldiers" who "were white" I would remind you that Confederate military units included people of various nationalities and ethnic origins: Native Americans, Hispanics, Jewish Americans, Foreign nationals, ect. The War Between the States was not a "whites only" gentleman's club on either side.
(It would be, I think, considerably more intellectually honest to make a section that discusses the complicated nature of what you're trying to do .... and ask the question for your readers "How should these men be considered?")
To your suggestion about intellectual honesty, I note that you failed to offer the rest of the section in context, preferring to zero in on this one point about the recruitment of free men of color from Tennessee. In fact, you seem to have completely disregarded the rest of the section entirely in your discussion. Adding that into context, you'll find that I DID in fact point that out.
As I stated before, the question of defining these Confederates of color as "soldiers" is left up to interpretation. For my part I only refer to these men specifically as "veterans" which is more broadly defined and does not include men (or women) who carried arms.
Well, I hope that answered your questions. Thanks again for your post, sir. ~Carl
Greetings again David.
Well now it seems you're hostility and the nature of it are beginning to show. Allow me to address it reasonably:
(This law was not designed to recruit soldiers; it was designed to recruit ditch-diggers. Now, if you consider those ditch diggers to be soldiers, so be it. But don't then claim that somebody is putting words in your mouth for alleging that you do so.)
I see no contradiction in what I said. I've had the honor of meeting the descendants of many of these men, a number of which express pride in the service of their ancestor in the war. Their interpretation of said ancestor's service is what I choose to respect in that regard. My personal interpretation is irrelevant. Also those men were far more than just "ditch-diggers" they were human beings, as are their proud descendants....try to remember that.
(Now, speaking not as a triggered academic, but as a former infantrymen, I don't consider such people to be soldiers. I don't consider civilian contractors to be soldiers now, and I certainly don't consider southern blacks who not considered soldiers by the confederate army or state militias to have been soldiers.)
The men who served besides these men and considered them fellow Confederate veterans after the war strongly disagreed with that interpretation for the most part. In my book they are the only ones truly qualified to make that determination. What you, or I, think is largely unimportant in the face of that since it was not our war.
(And there's something pretty ridiculous about you speaking on behalf of African-Americans in defense of service on behalf of the Confederate military.)
Ridiculous in what way? Am I missing something here? The information in the article I wrote largely come from sources that include African-American descendants of these men -- with their permission, of course. I'm also in the process of writing an article about the service of Black Loyalists in the American Revolutionary War as well, or maybe you feel there's something "ridiculous" about that too? Do you?
(Try talking to some outside of neo-confederate circles, and you'd find that most of them would probably find more dignity in their slave ancestors' surviving and trying to hold their families together--which might have also necessitated serving the confederacy--than in service on behalf of the CSA.)
The fact that you include the nonsense term "neo-Confederate" should be a major red flag here, but since you did at least attempt this exchange by presenting a rational argument, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, for now. I would ask, before continuing in this exchange, what you define as a "neo-Confederate" -- and I don't want a copy-n-paste wikipedia post, I want YOUR specific definition of that term. It seems that your own misinterpretation of the purpose of my article seems to be colored by your largely erroneous belief in who you apparently think I am and what I believe.
For the record, I find the term to be far too broad to be taken seriously and, in all my years dealing with other historians and military enthusiasts, I've never met anyone who meets every single criteria stated to define a "neo-Confederate". I would also remind you that American Civil War academia isn't divided between "Lost Causers" and "Righteous Causers" with a small group of "normies" and moderates being forcibly pushed into one camp or the other -- at least I like to believe that isn't the case.
As for the rest of your statement, see my previous statements about meeting the ancestors of these men -- and I'm pretty sure your definition of "neo-Confederate circles" would not include them, LOL!
Well that was fun, but I'll have to respond to your other comments later, its getting late and I have much to do. Thanks again for your post, David. ~Carl R.
Hey again, David! I didn't see these last few comments of yours. I would wait till tomorrow, but after I read them and saw the number of really outlandish misinterpretations, well I just have to offer a response. Let's go through them, shall we?
(Now, I'm not a fan of triggered academics, but even moreso [sic], I despise efforts to praise the Confederacy.)
Here I have to ask what you mean by praising the Confederacy exactly?
Now, if you've been reading other posts here at Southern Fried Common Sense & Stuff related to the War and Confederate Veterans, you will have noted that, while I certainly don't consider it the American equivalent of the bad guys from WW2, I offer no praise of the Confederate government, its policies, or the idea of secession in any way. I also do not promote any so-called "neo-Confederate" ideology.
I'll certainly praise the courage and service of the Confederate soldier and those who contributed to the defense of the South from invasion, but I don't regard that as specific praise for the Confederate government, or an endorsement of the ends promoted by the Confederate cause.
For the record I again point out that I'm very much anti-war in my personal views and consider all military conflict a human tragedy. The men who fought in the trenches deserve respect and the men in the two governments that put them in that situation and profited personally from the carnage can all burn in hell. Period.
(And as a history teacher, I despise the historical denial that is perpetuated on a regular basis to whitewash their actions.)
Which is why I dislike Black Confederate Denial for the historical negationism that it is, and worse for continuing the unhappy American tradition of downplaying and denigrating the memories of certain Black Americans to serve sordid agendas.
(You say you're not trying to do that, but you spend a lot of time talking about how slaves rose to the defense of the Southland and very little or no space talking about the complicated reasons why Southern blacks might serve Confederate interests. So a slave is loyal to his master on the battlefield? Some of that is probably going to be sincere personal warmth--but what about slaves whose families were left behind? What about those afraid that if they fled to the Union, their families would suffer, their "beloved" masters selling their children or wives away from their homes? Or free blacks desperate to show their loyalty to a society where their status was always endangered?)
Because none of those things are in dispute and there are literally a thousand articles on those topics. Also, you've gone from talking about free men of color from Tennessee to the broader topic of slaves across the South (and I note no mention of the ones in Union-controlled "border states" where those same unhappy practices continued until Dec. 1865, but oh well).
(So like I said, I'm a history teacher, and you're a young guy trying to write some history.)
I'm flattered you consider 48 young, God bless you!
(Here's my sincere and well-intentioned advice--worry less about trying to own "Deniers," and worry more about objectivity. If you handed this to me as a paper, I'd say a lot of things, but one thing most definitely is check your own biases...)
Again, if we're being honest, I think you are confusing your own misinterpretations of my work with some person biases of your own, David.
Might I also offer some sincere and well-intentioned advice in response? I invite you to broaden your horizons by read my blog site's historical work, and not just the stuff in regards to the Civil War. You may find yourself somewhat surprised and learn not to jump to quick judgments about someone and their motivations. Also if you like what you see and want more, be sure to become a subscriber.
Thanks again, and as always have a wonderful day. ~Carl R.
So I would like to begin with a couple of sincere apologies. I apologize for:
1. Condescension--for whatever reason, I thought you were in your early 20's, and tried to give you some well-intentioned advice on writing. You are, however, a grown-ass man, and can write any way you want to. You might say "well, guys in their twenties can also write any way they want to," but I have two sons in their twenties, and while they can write whatever they want to, I'm not always sure that they should.
2. Hostility of my tone. Although I still despise all the things I despise, you do not seem to be what I would call a "neo-confederate." I didn't call you one, nor do I think I suggested that you adhere to all the things I criticized, but I also didn't make that clear. Also want to add that while I despise reverence for the Confederacy, I don't despise people for revering the Confederacy, b/c I recognize that people might be doing the wrong thing for a less than wrong reason.
I would continue by saying, as I did later last night, so you might not have caught it, that I have no animus to the South or Southerners. I was stationed there, served with lots of Southerners, hung out with lots of Southerners, have nothing but good things to say. Indeed, one of the things that I think is tragic about Southern reverence for the Confederacy is that you have a place with so much rich history and culture--and in fact, a history and culture that really does blend white and black Americans--that its puzzling to me why so many Southerners focus on celebrating that part of Southern history which is the most divisive, not just to whites and blacks, but to Americans and general. I understand and respect being proud of your heritage--but if that leads one to defend the indefensible, if one's reflex is to laud the Confederacy, then maybe one needs to refocus one's efforts. Not saying that's what you're doing, but clearly, there are many who do.
And you are well read enough to know that there is a long Southern history of doing just that.
I also want to make clear that I don't think slavery or racism is a Southern issue. I love America for lots of reasons, but one is that it was the first country built explicitly on the idea of human liberty. However, it was also the first country built implicitly on the idea of white supremacy (Alexander Stephens got it wrong), because by establishing that all humans have these rights, and then dying them to one class of people, it gave the lie to the explicit premise on which the country was established. I'm very familiar with the story of northern racism and white supremacy, and often feel that if the South didn't exist, northerners would have created solely for the purpose of using it as a scapegoat for all its own ills.
One big difference though--northerners may ignore their own history of white supremacy; many Southerners actively celebrate theirs--and while I don't think that most of the people waving the Confederate battle flag are thinking "I sure love white supremacy!" that is what the flag stood for, and for many, still stands for.
As to what I would define as a Neo-Confederate, I would say it's this:
Those who seek to maintain the Lost Cause narrative in which slavery was a benign institution, Secession was about "States' Rights," the Union was the aggressor, the Confederacy's was a noble cause, and Reconstruction was brutal and oppressive."
Now, underpinning all of this--as listed in the order above--is that slavery was a benign institution, and that secession wasn't about slavery. One way in which this is demonstrated is by showing that not only did masters treat their slaves well, but that slaves reciprocated by showing their devotion to their masters and their cause. And what better evidence of that is there than slaves happily joined the cause of the Confederacy.
Hello again, David.
LOL you may have to give me about a week to successfully respond to all of your points in the last....six?....little manifestos I have to go over. I mean it took me three weeks to write the original article itself for the love of the Great Bird of the Galaxy, hee hee.
I suppose the best I can do is post but find the important points to respond to. Fortunately the first one you sent was summarized nicely (thank you!) and makes it the easiest to address.
(As to what I would define as a Neo-Confederate, I would say it's this:
Those who seek to maintain the Lost Cause narrative in which slavery was a benign institution, Secession was about "States' Rights," the Union was the aggressor, the Confederacy's was a noble cause, and Reconstruction was brutal and oppressive."
Now, underpinning all of this--as listed in the order above--is that slavery was a benign institution, and that secession wasn't about slavery. One way in which this is demonstrated is by showing that not only did masters treat their slaves well, but that slaves reciprocated by showing their devotion to their masters and their cause. And what better evidence of that is there than slaves happily joined the cause of the Confederacy.)
Well, this is the best proof I don't fall into that category as I've never made the claim in my article, or any other post, that slavery was anything but a horrid and un-Christian practice. As far as I'm aware nobody who has read my article, or referenced the information in it, has utilized it to promote the line of thinking you mentioned. I could be wrong, but nobody has come forward with evidence this is true.
While it is true that some slaves did serve with their masters in Confederate service -- in many cases after the master had been killed off -- I don't believe that has anything to do with some "happy slave" mythology based on decades of reading and research.
I think the answer is closer to one of my favorite and most profound scenes in the 1989 film "Glory" where Shaw offers Pvt. Trip the position of Color Bearer and he turns it down, explaining that he wasn't fighting for the Union so much as he was fighting for himself and his own.
I don't believe that any of the Black Confederates who were slaves held any such illusions that, if the CSA won, that slavery would get any better or end sooner. Or those free men of color who served believed that racial attitudes would change overnight. They were probably looking out for themselves and their loved ones with the hope that their service might help improve their lot. Maybe some had the hope that their service might slowly change things? Also, for better or worse (often times both), the South was their home too and the men they served with were neighbors.
The same can be said for a large number of those who served in the USCT, most were fighting for a better future for themselves rather than wrapping themselves in Old Glory and being righteous crusaders the preservation of the glorious Union. They were fighting in the hope that the future might be better for them and theirs.
The subject of how African-Americans in American military service viewed their roles in the face of the widespread prejudice that American society inflicted on them is a very complex topic; and anything I can offer would only be guesswork based on second-hand knowledge of said experiences. I do my best to try and approach it with dignity and respect for the memory of the subjects. As for wither of not I'm successful in doing so....well, I leave that up to the reader.
That's all for now, its a bit late. I'll have to check messages in the morning and continue down the list. LOL try to have mercy of a humble small town country writer. ~Carl
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