Showing posts with label Southern-Confederate heritage defense. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Southern-Confederate heritage defense. Show all posts

Tuesday, July 04, 2017

Another Regressive Wants To Destroy Confederate Monuments -- An Independence Day Special

Greetings and Salutations everyone!

On Friday, June 30th, the following story titled: Confederate Monuments and the Fourth of July appeared in the Chicago Tribune written by columnist and anti-Confederate heritage regressive Mr. Steve Chapman -- who also claims to be a Confederate descendant of a noted general no less! 

Confederate descendants who reject their ancestry, and take pains to point out their disgust with it are my favorite Leftist regressives to take apart, as I have mentioned previous on this blog. 

The subject of the recent acts of cultural genocide against symbols of Confederate heritage with the removal of several Confederate monuments in a few major cities in the South prompted this story, complete with all of the usual bullshit arguments advanced by these regressive Leftists and cultural vandals included. So I thought now would be the best opportunity to go through them point-by-point and have a little fun completely discrediting one of these arrogant regressive trolls in the process. 

As always my responses to the article are written in Confederate Red. Enjoy:

Confederate monuments and the Fourth of July
Independence Day....I hate when people just use the date. Give it the respect it deserves dude!


In 1871, the city of Richmond, Va., publicly celebrated the Fourth of July. It was an unfamiliar experience. There had been no general commemoration of Independence Day since 1860 — before Virginia had seceded from the nation that was formed in 1776. Not entirely true and I will demonstrate why shortly.
Other Southern cities were not ready to resume participation in our national ritual. Actually many places did do so during the War itself, and I would point out that New England does not own Independence Day, six Southern States: Georgia, Maryland, Delaware, Virginia, North Carolina and especially my home state of South Carolina had a big role in maintaining the independence that day commemorates. Few people from any of those States at the time denied that at all. Cheraw became the first place in post-Civil War South Carolina to do so, in 1891. Jackson, Miss., waited until 1901 to hold a reading of the Declaration of Independence on the occasion. Vicksburg, Miss., didn't join the party until 1945.

Humm, well dude, looks like SOME Confederates didn't quite follow this BS paradigm you
are trying to peddle. Won't argue about the others since some people did in fact refuse to
celebrate the 4th until the Spanish-American War (1898). The War Between The States did cause some really bitter feelings all around.

Staunch supporters of the Lost Cause had little fondness for the United States. The Stars and Stripes was the banner of their enemy. At the time the banner of what was then an invading country, yes. When Union troops occupied Richmond in April 1865, the first thing they did was hoist the American United States flag over the capitol. Um, that is generally what happens when someone takes an enemy position.
The die-hards recognized what some modern Southerners miss: the deep contradiction between loving America and revering the Confederacy. 


Wow guess somebody failed to inform THESE proud (and dare I say "die-hard"?) Confederate Veterans about this alleged "contradiction" between loving America and honoring their service. Buddy, your paradigms are completely hollow.
I would also add something that I have stated time and time again on this blog, something that modern regressive Leftists always fail to get: that loving America and Federal power are NOT THE SAME DAMN THING! Again y'all have no monopoly on defining what it means to BE an American.


Now let's come to the sad and silly point of this article.

The struggle over what to do with monuments to rebel leaders is a conflict between those who think what they did was admirable or heroic and those who think it was disgraceful.
I wouldn't put it in those terms exactly, all I would say is that they were not wrong to defend their home and independence from an invader and I don't apologize for that service. I would say I think their courage and heroism was admirable under the circumstances. Beyond that I do not advocate for war, even though I admire the men -- ON BOTH SIDES -- who fought.



My long-dead relatives include several men who fought for the South. One was Gen. Leonidas Polk, who commanded troops in several major battles before being killed in action. He was not the last person to illustrate that fallibility runs in the family. Nope, so far you are doing a good job demonstrating a great deal of fallibility in your research and weak attempt at propaganda.

In 1961, when I was a boy in the West Texas city of Midland, a new high school opened. It was named after Robert E. Lee, for reasons that are obvious: White resentment of the civil rights movement had produced widespread nostalgia for the Confederacy. San Antonio's Lee High School opened in 1958; Houston's in 1962. So are you about to provide evidence for your arrogant assumption that those things were done in defiance of civil rights, rather than in commemoration for the upcoming Civil War Centennial celebrations happening at the same time? Humm?


Midland Lee called its sports teams the Rebels and used the Confederate battle flag as its symbol. Black students didn't mind, because there weren't any. They attended a segregated black school. Nice virtue signaling there.
The general did have a connection to Texas. His last U.S. Army command before the Civil War was at a fort in the Hill Country town of Mason — which has no Lee monument. Gerald Gamel, editor of the Mason County News, ascribes the omission to strong anti-secession sentiment in Mason. That tells you something about why other places honor Confederate heroes. It tells me something, but I am certain you and I don't share the same conclusions fella.



His role comes to mind because of a recent rally in defense of a statue of him in Houston, which supposedly was under threat from leftists because he owned slaves. Armed counter-protesters, many expressing secessionist views, showed up on the appointed date. But the threat was a hoax, and Houston's self-styled defenders apparently didn't know that he saw disunion as treason.
Reality check: the monument defenders who showed up -- a couple of which I know well from facebook -- did so because it was the right thing to do. The destruction of those monuments is wrong-thinking virtue signaling garbage, pure and simple. Trust me they were well aware of Sam Houston's contributions to American heritage, the existence of the modern State of Texas, and his opposition to secession at the time. They just did it to defend history, that is what you miss. Some of these same people would have done the same had some group of vandals decided a statue to Martin Luther King Jr. or some other Civil Rights icon was subject to attack. 
It was. Yet grand memorials were erected across the South to celebrate what the traitors did. Secession was not legally treason until a US Supreme Court case (White Vs. Texas) ruled it unconstitutional four years AFTER the War ended. There was no court case that ruled either in favor of, nor against secession prior to that, and the US Constitution did not specifically make secession either legal or illegal. The monuments were built by whites at a time when blacks had no political power — a condition those whites were desperate to preserve.
LMAO! Oh wow! Um fella, you might wanna read the following account of the erection of one of these monuments: 

In Mississippi on February 1, 1890, an appropriation for a monument to the Confederate dead was being considered. A delegate had just spoken against the bill, when John F. Harris, a Black Republican delegate from Washington, county, rose to speak:
“Mr. Speaker! I have risen in my place to offer a few words on the bill.
I have come from a sick bed. Perhaps it was not prudent for me to come. But sir, I could not rest quietly in my room without contributing a few remarks of my own.
I was sorry to hear the speech of the young gentlemen from Marshall County. I am sorry that any son of a soldier would go on record as opposed to the erections of a monument in honor of the brave dead. And, Sir, I am convinced that had he seen what I saw at Seven Pines, and in the Seven Day’s fighting around Richmond, the battlefield covered with mangled forms of those who fought for this country and their country’s honor, he would not have made the speech.
When the news came that the South had been invaded, those men went forth to fight for what they believed, and they made not requests for monuments. But they died, and their virtues should be remembered.
Sir, I went with them. I, too, wore the gray, the same color my master wore. We stayed for four long years, and if that war had gone on till now I would have been there yet. I want to honor those brave men who died for their convictions.
When my Mother died I was a boy. Who, Sir, then acted the part of Mother to the orphaned slave boy, but my old Missus! Were she living now, or could speak to me from those high realms where are gathered the sainted dead, she would tell me to vote for this bill. And, Sir, I shall vote for it. I want it known to all the world that my vote is given in favor of the bill to erect a monument in HONOR OF THE CONFEDERATE DEAD.”
When the applause died down, the measure passed overwhelmingly, and every Black member voted “AYE.”

The sources for this story -- which is very much in the historical record of Mississippi State Legislature -- can be found HERE
In addition to your ill-informed statements, black Southerners themselves often times donated money towards the erection of these monuments of their own free will, even helped raise said money through bake sales, church fundraisers, ect. Well, you would know that if you were not trying to peddle some bullshit argument in the first place.

They failed, and they deserved to fail. God and the resources and fighting abilities of Union generals in the late period of the War saw to it they did at any rate. It's only fitting that Southerners who reject the legacies of slavery, secession and Jim Crow would prefer to be rid of these tributes to them. One cannot reject history, or the legacy of it. Even if you could somehow equate the removal of these monuments with those acts -- you cannot and have failed to do so effectively -- their removal won't alter American history. The only thing these acts seem to serve is a chance for you, a white Leftist regressive "ally" and self-hater to pat yourself on the back and claim you are not a bigot....which makes you an even bigger fool than I already think you are.
It's not a symptom of modern political correctness. Uh, yeah it is. Days after the Declaration of Independence was signed, a New York mob destroyed a statue of King George III. LOL oh this argument again. You are aware that at the time the Declaration of Independence was signed King George III was STILL ALIVE. Tearing down the statue was meant to show him that the Crown no longer ruled the colonies. Confederate monuments by contrast were put up to honor long dead people out of respect and closure for the families who lost loved ones in the War. There is a big gaping difference between the two, are you intellectually honest enough to acknowledge it?
If the men and women of the Revolution were eager to be rid of the images of those who had oppressed them and made war on America, why should African-Americans in the South feel differently about statues of leaders who fought to keep their race in chains? So now like all white Leftist regressive "allies" YOU claim to speak for all African-Americans in the South? Sorry but no son, that dog don't hunt. Be sure to check out some more really nifty photographic examples for why you are full of shit: HERE.
For a long time, American history was owned by white men and minimized the treatment of blacks, women, Indians and Latinos.  Yeah AMERICAN history was, not just Southern history. Accommodating our public spaces to their full citizenship doesn't erase history. Oh is that what you call it? I call it regression on the march. It fills in parts that had been shamefully omitted. So....removing something fills something? Um, you ever looked in a dictionary dude?
The Confederate monuments belong not in places of honor but in museums, as artifacts of past error. Your opinion, and thankfully not one shared by a significant majority in this country. They were put up to enshrine an interpretation of the past that has been discredited. See above showing why your conclusions are in error. Taking them down and putting up different statues AH! So you DO wanna fill something in? Ok, gotcha! is a reminder that in understanding the past, we shape the future. No you intellectual retard, understanding the past tells us where we have been.
If there's a statue of my relative Leonidas Polk honoring his Confederate leadership, There is indeed -- and as someone who claims knowledge of family history I'm shocked you don't know that....unless your family history isn't as fabricated as the rest of your opinion piece? I'm willing to see it pulled down. In fact, I'd like to be there to help. And I'm certain it would help you feel you have made up for some inadequacy in your shallow existence....for about two minutes or so.

Well folks, there you have it, another regressive, self-hating Confederate "descendant" called out and his narratives taken apart by the truth. In doing so I hope I have helped many of y'all learn more about why those of us who are proud descendants of Confederate soldiers continue to honor them, and more about the character of those who seek to protect and preserve historical truth rather than those who seek to take it apart with a sledge hammer. 

Have a Happy Independence Day 2017 Y'all! 

Monday, May 15, 2017

A Challenge To Those Who Want Confederate Symbols Removed From Public Property




There are some individuals out there, many of them opposed to displays of Southern-Confederate historical symbols, who would like me to shut up and disappear from the internet forever. 

Well, I will give them their wish....on one condition. 

I would like to formally issue a challenge to all Leftists, avowed Marxist-Leninists-Socialists, antifas, BLMs, Social Justice Warriors, the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC), The Anti-Defamation League (ADL), the National Association for the Advancement of (Liberal) Colored People (NAACP), "One-Nation-One-Flag" uber-patriots, Left-leaning "historians", or just your plain ole average self-hating Southerner sitting in front of their computer screens that believes one can simply pick and choose what aspect of heritage everyone should honor....and if I left out any group of whiny, guild-ridden, privileged, virtue-signaling snowflakes, I include y'all too! 



I know that in opposing the displays of Southern-Confederate symbols (banners, monuments, grave sites, street names, building names, ect.) all of y'all have a specific set of views. Maybe not all the same points specifically, but the end results would all be the same; namely no Confederate flags, monuments, or other symbols on public property. Adding to that the disenfranchisement of anyone unashamed to display them, or disagree with what you consider the "judgement of history" from your unique -- if woefully limited -- perspective. 

All of y'all have stated time and time again over the last three decades that these symbols are racist symbols of white supremacy and that the removal of these symbols will bring about: racial reconciliation, social "progress" and pride in America values....at least those "values" as defined by the tenements of groups of people that consider the founding of this country to be unfair in some vague, moralistic way. 

I disagree and have stated on this blog that the symbols of Southern-Confederate historical heritage are a part of cultural diversity, that it is defined in a modern Southern mindset by most descendants of Confederate soldiers and servicemen (and women) as a living heritage honored and embraced by a broad ethnic spectrum of those who define themselves as Southern people. I have also shown many proofs of this here at Southern Fried Common Sense through indisputable photographic evidence. Told what I have witnessed through my own eyes over the course of pro-Southern heritage* defense and activism. 


In short, I am more than confident in the validity of my viewpoints, and those shared by many others across the American Southland.  I have little doubt that promotion of those views, while rejecting those views of the Opposition which seek to remove and define these symbols in their own way as negative, is the moral correct answer, and the only honorable path to True Tolerance in the South and America as a whole. I have even shown the proof that our way leads to understanding and ends misguided fear for those who should never have to fear those symbols in the first place.

Obviously many of y'all have disagreed with me over the years, feared my calling attention to the positive results of advancing the pro-Confederate heritage message, and done what has been your (cough cough cough) "best" to shut me up....and ultimately failed. 

So what is the point of this blog post you might ask? 

Well, I am going to give all of y'all the best chance you will ever have to shut me up for good. At the same time give y'all a forum here at my UNCENSORED blog to prove that the anti-Confederate heritage regressive view in this fight can achieve its stated goals. 

I am a man of my word. If you take this challenge and provide the evidence I ask for in specific, irrefutable detail, then I will post my final farewell and say adios here on this blog. I will even cease my active defense of Confederate symbols and historical heritage on other online forums and....well, retire.  

This is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity snowflakes, and I am handing you the prospect of a final and total victory against The Man Deniers Fear The Most. 

Are you ready? 

Okay then, here we go. 

Here is my formal challenge to the regressive forces aligned against Southern-Confederate historical heritage:
 
In the last 25 years, since this war against Confederate symbols began, hundreds of flags, street names, signs, markers, monuments, logos, ect. have been removed or replaced. In all of these instances those of you who supported their removal made the bold claim that doing so would bring about: racial equality, reconciliation, healing and tolerance. 
Out of all of those hundreds of examples to date, site for me one -- JUST ONE! -- instance where those stated goals have actually been achieved by those actions. Include as proof whatever evidence you can provide that DIRECTLY links the removal and replacement of those symbols with the outcomes that you claimed would occur. 

Prove to me for all time that the promotion of a pro-white supremacist view of misguided fear of the symbols of a living Southern-Confederate heritage y'all advocate has ever, or will ever, result in the "healing and reconciliation" you claim it will achieve. 

I need real proof, not conjecture. Example: stating that "the removal of the battle flag from the Confederate monument in July 2015 in Columbia, SC was celebrated by white and black people." That in and of itself is not proof that the long-term result of the removal of that banner has, or will lead, to a massive racial healing. Another would be siting the changing of the Dixie Youth Baseball League logo in 1993 leading to more minority youth joining in the last two decades. That would also not be actual proof since non-white children have been a part of that league for several decades prior to the removal of the Dixie Cross banner from the logo and local demographics having changed since that time.

Please send your responses to the comment section below on this blog. You can provide links to support your evidence. One rule though, your responses must be posted here on THIS blog. No "safe spacing" blog posts on other blogs and then sending links. This is the forum and it is here where y'all will put your money where you kiss your mommas. I give me word as a proud Southerner, a proud American, and a believer and advocate of free speech that I will post your response....if any.

Lets just see if even one of y'all can deliver.


*It should be noted that in using the term "pro-Southern heritage" I do not simply mean Confederate heritage, which is only a part of a much large Southern heritage. I refer to the promotion of Southern identity and respect for historical memory, regardless of the positive or negative aspects. For the record I do not consider the American Civil War (War Between the States) itself to have been positive -- no war is, even if I consider the courage and fortitude of the Confederate citizen soldier to be very positive and certainly worth honoring in modern times.

Monday, May 01, 2017

York County Confederate Flag Protest & Rally


On Saturday, April 22nd, a Confederate flag rally took place in front of the newly renovated York County Courthouse in York, South Carolina. 

Sponsored by the Private Thomas E. Caldwell Camp #31 SC Division Sons of Confederate Veterans and approved during the previous month's reunion of the SCSCV in Rock Hill, SC, approximately 172 Confederate descendants with various Confederate battle flags (modern and historical) and CSA national colors attended the 90 minute rally to protest the illegal removal of a Confederate 2nd National banner and two paintings of Generals Robert E. Lee and Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson from the courtroom where they were displayed since the early 1940s. 

The York County clerk of court, Mr. David Hamilton, refused to return the flag and portraits to the courtroom, despite promises to do so. This rally was in defense of South Carolina's Heritage Act of 2000 which prohibits the removal, relocation, or destruction of Confederate symbols. It was also in protest of the wrong-thinking regressive view that labels the Dixie Cross banner wrongly as a symbol of "hatred and racism". 

Despite a contingent of police nearby, the rally was held peacefully and the speakers all well received by those in attendance.

The following are photos this blogger took from the event. 


My compatriot and friend Miss Jenna Stoney from Florida in the
foreground waving. This would be the third Confederate flag
event in the last three months I attended locally with her and her
loyal service dog, Confederate Shorty.
Confederate Shorty after a long car drive.
Also Jenna's car looks about like mine does after a long trip, LOL!
Mr. Kirk Michael Carter, Commander of the Pvt. Thomas E.
Caldwell Camp #31 and 3rd Brigade Commander SC Division SCV.

"Today was a day to let the Clerk of Court, David Hamilton, know that for the removal of these historical items -- the confederate flag, the portraits of our great General Robert E. Lee, General Thomas Jackson is breaking the law according the Heritage Act of 2000. "We will not give up. We will see that the law is abided by." ~ Kirk Carter.
At Saturday's protest, 5th Congressional District Republican candidate
Sheri Few called the flag supporters honorable for holding the rally.


Read more here: http://www.heraldonline.com/news/local/article146242199.html#storylink=cpy
Reverend Creighton Lovelace, a Baptist preacher in Forest City, N.C. and NC Division SCV member spoke eloquently about our Southern-Confederate heritage and what connects it
to us as part of a living heritage.
Mr. Thomas Webberburger with a powerful message against
the removal of Southern-Confederate symbols and cultural genocide.
Polk's Battle Flag (CSA Army of Tennessee) and General Lee's HQ Flag
(CSA Army of Northern Virginia) represented at the rally.
Confederate Shorty enjoying the shade and the grass.

I would be less than honest if I said that everyone who attended the event was there to honor our shared Southern-Confederate historical heritage.

Also attending were at least three individuals: two anti-Confederate heritage regressive and one white supremacist throwback, who attempted to pass along their own "messages" despite being vastly outnumbered by the nearly 200 Confederate heritage defenders -- men, women and children of diverse backgrounds, religious faiths and ethnic origins (and in at least one case, a non-Southern Union descendant!) -- who stood fast against the removal and false labeling of the Dixie Cross banner and two portraits of Christian Southern heroes.  

A Leftist anti-Confederate heritage reactionary stands with a
sign supporting the pro-white supremacist stance concerning the flag --
ironically only ten feet from an African-American supporter of
the South's living memorial to the Confederate dead and historical heritage.
This individual with the neo-Nazi tattoos displaying the cheap novelty banner along with another flag above it* tried to send his own message. Instead I am proud to say that he was avoided and ignored by all in attendance. I am please to report he left just as the service started to end sour-faced and without finding any love for the "values" he was attempting to signal with his co-opted (novelty) Southern banner.
A second virtue-signaling Leftist regressive holding up a reality-defying
message while protesting an ethnically diverse group of Southerners
all of whom were gathered as brothers and sisters under a shared Confederate heritage.
Nothing but Southern kindness was shown toward this pitiable individual.

The beautiful spring weather with the strong breeze that kept the banners flying proudly in the spirit of common unity among those of us who dare to defend our ancestor's good name, and the banners they fought under from those who seek to divide us for their own political, or personal gain. 

Our presence and our determination, even in the face of opposition, showed that hatred and virtue-signaling disguised as "tolerance" could not win on that day. Nor will it win in the long run so long as there are those of us willing to face it down.

This particular fight is far from over in York, South Carolina, and this blogger promises to update y'all on whatever happens in regard to the issue of the flag and portraits being returned or relocated at the York County Courthouse. 

My friend Miss Jenna took the final photo while I posed with the group beside Confederate Shorty.

Till next time, y'all have a wonderful Dixie Day!

UPDATE 05-04-2016
*
The "Raven flag" displayed by the intruder with the neo-Nazi tattoos apparently has a positive historical origin. The information can be found HERE. I should also add that the misuse of that flag (a Viking symbol) by this person to advance the odious cause of racial supremacy is no more legitimate than the attempt by any other white supremacist to co-opt the Dixie cross banner for the same purpose.
(sighs) Well, I suppose that I must also thank Mr. Corey Meyer for finding that particular information and providing it to this blogger.